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Vaccination thoughts? (xp)

I was just wondering if you girls will be vaccinating your LO's (or if you already have)? Why or why not? This is NOT meant to be a debate, I'm just weighing it for myself and would like some additional input! I did with all three of my other kids, but it's my opinion that my son Maximus was adversely affected by his three year old round of shots. His attitude and personality changed drasticly as soon as he got them, and because of that it's made me scared to do it again. DD still hasn't had that round of shots...

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We will vaccinate on the peds schedule.

One of our baby sitters doesn't vaccinate her daughter. I don't really understand her thinking on it. We haven't really discussed it too much either. She did mention that a friend of hers child got chicken pox after getting the shot for it. (((shrugs))) I didn't want to ruin our friendship over it. She has had trouble finding a doctor that will accept their no vax stance though.

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I would like to say no to vaccinations but she needs to have them in order to be enrolled in any child care, so we will have them done. She already had her HepB in the hospital.

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(lurker, saw this on the recent thread list)

Have you read Dr. Sear's The Vaccine Book? It's a good starting off point for information and it's easy to read. Just be sure to check out his website for any information that has changed since it was published.

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We delayed the MMR vaccine for Nicholas until he was 18 months so that we could space out his shots a little more. We will do the same with Emily.

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We'll be getting vaccinated but on a delayed schedule. I just don't like the idea of him getting so many different things at once.

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We will get all vaccines. I'm going to ask our doctor about a delayed schedule and if it would be helpful, but more than likely we will just get all on schedule.

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I do vaccines on the ped schedule. In all the research I've done I've found no reason to fear them but I respect other people's decisions on the topic completely.

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The only one I have refused is the flu vaccine. Its one of the few vaccines left that contain mercury. I probably would have skipped the chicken pox one as well but it actually prevents two diseases. You can't get shingles unless you got chicken pox and I have seen shingles do some bad things! For me, I think the benefits outweigh the risks for most of the vaccines. I totally understand delaying the MMR, that's another that still contains mercury. We have gotten lukes shots all on schedule, but I always have anxiety over it. It's hard to be a parent, you always want to do the right thing. That becomes very difficult when you don't know for sure what the right thing is!

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"kmm123" wrote:

I do vaccines on the ped schedule. In all the research I've done I've found no reason to fear them but I respect other people's decisions on the topic completely.

this is me.

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Lurker- I just wanted to say that MMR does not contain mercury, inactivated flu vaccines do, live dont ,but you need to ask your dr if any vacicnes do or dont

Does the measles, mumps and rubella (MMR) vaccine contain thimerosal?
No, MMR vaccine does not and never did contain thimerosal. Varicella (chickenpox), inactivated polio (IPV), and
pneumococcal conjugate vaccines have also never contained thimerosal.

Incidentally, the MMR vaccine never contained thimerosal, the mercury-based preservative that some people believed might be linked with autism. Six studies have now examined the relationship between thimerosal and autism and have concluded that thimerosal-containing vaccines do not cause autism either. In any case, thimerosal has been removed from all childhood vaccines except the flu vaccine, so it's no longer a concern. babycenter.com

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Of course we will vaccinate the children! The reason for doing it is so that they don't get horrible diseases. I will also keep them away from families who don't vaccinate as much as possible.

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My first baby got all of his shots on the ped's schedule with no problems. Like I said in the OP, my son Max went through a complete transformation when he got his three year old round of shots... and I believe he has a slight form of autism from it. He doesn't have any of the speech disabilities that come with it, but he shows MANY symptoms of the disorder and has from the moment we got those shots... his demeanor and overall personality changed completely. We're now going through the process of getting him tested for it. So because of that, I've held off on letting DD get this round of shots (she just turned 3 last month), although she got all of the required ones before that. The only shots that I absolutely refuse are the ones that the ped offers that's not required, as I don't like the fact that they haven't been tested or around long enough and I don't want my babies being used as guinea pigs if something ends up being wrong with the vaccine 5 years down the road. I guess I don't mind Trystan getting vaccinated the first year... but these three year old ones really have me scared...

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Krystal- do you which one(s)? I thought at three they didn't introduce any new vaccines just boosters.

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"triplespiral" wrote:

Of course we will vaccinate the children! The reason for doing it is so that they don't get horrible diseases. I will also keep them away from families who don't vaccinate as much as possible.

What is your reasoning for this?

In all but two states (Mississippi and West Virginia) children can attend public school without any vaccinations with a waiver. Private institutions have a choice about accepting waivers or not.

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:lurk:

If your child gets vaccinated on schedule there should be no reason to fear them being around families who don't vaccinate.

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On principle rather than fear.

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We vaccinate on the ped's schedule. I made sure to find a pediatrician that I could trust with my children's life. I trust her about this as well. If I read or hear something about vaccines that gives me fear I just discuss it with the pediatrician and decide what to do.

We don't usually do flu shots though, but we did this year. Luke was preterm and the pedi strongly recommended that the whole family have a flu shot and that all of the adults have the pertussis booster to protect him better, so we did.

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Isn't being a parent frightening? There are so many things we have to be afraid of because "they" say it can harm or kill our babies. No wonder parents are so neurotic...lol. We vaccinated Brynna and Ryan will be as well. I hate it when they get a whole bunch of shots at once so I am thinking about maybe talking to their pedi about a delayed schedule and see if she thinks there are any benefits from it etc.

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I vaccinate on pedi's schedule.

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We vaccinate on the pedi's schedule. With DS I was freaking out at one of his big appts where he was going to get multiple vaccinations and the pedi sat down and talked to me about why she believes that research shows it was safe. She really calmed my fears about vaccines and all the horrible things you hear about them.

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**lurker**

I would do your own research and come to your own conclusions. I second the recommendation of the Dr. Sear's book-- it is helpful and weighs the pros and cons, risks and benefits.

I've taken a different approach on nearly each of our kids-- bc we were in different situations. For example, we delayed the DTaP for our 2nd DD, bc she was only kept at home and not in any daycare setting. However, with our 3rd DD, I did get her the DTaP nearly on "schedule" bc she had siblings who attended public school with a fairly large non- immunized population.

Some things, like HepB, I delay until my kids are ready for kindy. Just bc I feel confident that they won't be using intravenous drugs or having sex before then Wink (the only ways HepB is transmitted....) So I wait until their systems are more mature. Other vaxes I skip entirely (chicken pox) since they are now discovering that a bunch of middle schoolers are getting shingles bc the immunization hasn't been totally effective for as long as natural immunity.

I"m grateful for the science that has brought us immunizations and glad that I don't have to worry about my kids getting polio. At the same time, I think there is a balance between when and how many shots they get as wee infants......

That said, I don't think there is a "right" way to do it. It depends on your family, your situation. My decisions were made as an exclusively breastfeeding, kids never in daycare mama.....were my circumstances different, I would proceed in another way.

GL with your decisions!

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"kat83" wrote:

Lurker- I just wanted to say that MMR does not contain mercury, inactivated flu vaccines do, live dont ,but you need to ask your dr if any vacicnes do or dont

Does the measles, mumps and rubella (MMR) vaccine contain thimerosal?
No, MMR vaccine does not and never did contain thimerosal. Varicella (chickenpox), inactivated polio (IPV), and
pneumococcal conjugate vaccines have also never contained thimerosal.

Incidentally, the MMR vaccine never contained thimerosal, the mercury-based preservative that some people believed might be linked with autism. Six studies have now examined the relationship between thimerosal and autism and have concluded that thimerosal-containing vaccines do not cause autism either. In any case, thimerosal has been removed from all childhood vaccines except the flu vaccine, so it's no longer a concern. babycenter.com

I just wanted to say pneumococcal and the seasonal flu vaccine are not the same thing. When I had the flu shot the last year it did contain mercury according to the package insert. I then called the pharmacist to find out for sure she said the shot did contain mercury, only the nasal spray did not

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"PAmom2boys" wrote:

Krystal- do you which one(s)? I thought at three they didn't introduce any new vaccines just boosters.

I'm not sure... I'm going to call the pedi and ask them which ones they get. I'm also going to check into this Dr. Sears book...

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**lurker** sorry it was in the recent topics lol

We selectively vax. Kaylee had her newborn vax's, some of the vax's from nb-one year and then after research we decided that we no longer wished to vax at all. We will be doing the same for Rowan when he gets here [no vax] We will look over all the vax's again when Kay is 5 and decide if there is anything we feel she needs. The human body is simply amazing when you allow the immune system to develope on its own. Plus a vax doesnt 100% prevent any illness or disease, you still have a chance of your child rejecting it and you'll never know unless they fall ill.

For school we will be filling out exemption forms stating religious reasons for our non-vax; same for daycare if we ever use it. (:

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**Lurker** (you seem to have gotten a lot of us on this thread!) Smile

"kat83" wrote:

Lurker- I just wanted to say that MMR does not contain mercury, inactivated flu vaccines do, live dont ,but you need to ask your dr if any vacicnes do or dont

Does the measles, mumps and rubella (MMR) vaccine contain thimerosal?
No, MMR vaccine does not and never did contain thimerosal. Varicella (chickenpox), inactivated polio (IPV), and
pneumococcal conjugate vaccines have also never contained thimerosal.

Incidentally, the MMR vaccine never contained thimerosal, the mercury-based preservative that some people believed might be linked with autism. Six studies have now examined the relationship between thimerosal and autism and have concluded that thimerosal-containing vaccines do not cause autism either. In any case, thimerosal has been removed from all childhood vaccines except the flu vaccine, so it's no longer a concern. babycenter.com

For children you can get a flu shot without thimerosal. All pedi's should stock them for kids under 8. Also, you can choose the live flu vaccine for kids over 6 months if you feel comfortable with that. But the point being, there are flu vax options for kids that do not contain mercury.

"PAmom2boys" wrote:

Krystal- do you which one(s)? I thought at three they didn't introduce any new vaccines just boosters.

I'm curious about this also because my DD did not get any shots at the 3 year appt and I'm thinking it was the same for the other kids on her birth board.

We do vaccinate on schedule but I like Audra's take on it. I think it is an individual decision and while I don't particularly understand the choice of not vaccinating at all (I think that's a bit extreme, personally), I think "to each his own". Everyone's got to make their own decision based on their own circumstances. And I think the pharmaceutical industry is largely greed-driven so I do have a fair amount of distrust in any studies and propoganda that come out of there.

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I think we will follow the recommended schedule but I have to discuss it with DH still. I do understand the fears (it's scary!) but usually tend to go with best available medical knowledge which according to my research indicates no risk from vaccines.

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From our Dept of Health info:
"Since 2001, thimerosal has not been used as a preservative in routinely recommended childhood vaccines, with the exception of some influenza and tetnus-diphtheria vaccines in mutli-dose vials. Thimerosal has never been used in live vaccines (MMR, varicella, and intranasal flu vaccine)."

I have requested and received flu shots without thimerosal while TTC and while pregnant (it's a requirement at my hospital to be vaccinated every year) so I would think the same could be requested for children (6 months or older) or the nasal spray if older than 2 years old. I'm choosing to vaccinate my child because after reading info for each vaccination and different studies, I think the benefits outweight the risks. I do appreciate how great our immune systems can be for certain diseases (e.g., colds) however a lot of the diseases we vaccinate for (measles, mumps) can have serious outcomes (recognizing these are usually the rare instances but I don't want to risk it).

I'm curious too what shots were received by your son at age three because according to our pediatrician's schedule the only shots vaccines that would be received at age 3 are catch up vaccines missed at an earlier age.

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