Sophia and Evie's Trail

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Sophia and Evie's Trail

...not sure if I should really call it one, since I started this soooooooo late after we began EC. But here goes:

We started ECing her at 6 mths. I really never thought or knew about EC until after. What got us started was her.

We started solids at 6 mths, and within 3 days, she started getting a really bad rash...really, her first major diaper rash ever. It caused her so much pain that cleaning her bum made her cry....made me cry too. Anyways, one day, DH was changing her overnite diaper to a regular diaper. He got a clean diaper under her, looked away for a moment to do something (get a wipe? not sure...) and when he looked back, she pooped in the nice clean diaper. So he had to change her diaper again.

When did this again the next morning, DH came and told me that he believed she was actually holding her poop until a clean diaper was laid under her. And after much discussion, we thought, well, if she can hold her poop for a clean diaper...she can hold her poop for the potty!!! So we pottied her the next morning. She was upset at first since she could barely sit up on her own, never mind on a potty, so we held her upright and wouldn't let her move. But she pooped right away. And we tried again the next morning and she pooped in the potty instead of her diaper. 3 days after we started pottying her, her diaper rash disappeared completely. Once she realized that pooping in the potty and not her diaper caused her rash to disappear, she was very interested in using the pottying for poops, altho we didn't always catch each poop. But as she had just started solids and it was messing with her poops, we didn't expect much. But I believe about a month or so after, she began to get regular 2 poops a day: 1 first thing in the morning and the other after her 2nd nap, just before dinner. We got so good at catching her poops, I never had a dirty diaper for MONTHS. Only times she has pooped in her diaper was when she was sick and when her diet gets a bit too "fibre-rich". And she is so upset every time it happens.

Pees were tricky right from the start, she was ok with peeing in her diaper, so she wasn't motivated to let us know when she was about to pee. And her only signal was to go quiet...even then, it wasn't always consistent. Some days were worse than others. But over the days and weeks, she started getting pretty good about peeing 1st thing in the morning and sometimes after naps. We used training pants, and while it helped her get aware of her pees, it still didn't motivate her to tell us when she needed to pee.

She signed potty for the 1st time at 11 mths, but then rarely signed after that. Last month, she finally started signing and signalling a bit more reliably. Also, she has begun to stay dry during her meals (she used to always pee at some point while in the high chair). She will sometimes even hold her pee until I can get her on a potty. She still has accidents but they are a lot less, for sure. She still unfortunately relies on us to ask her if she needs to go to the potty; she doesn't initiate any communication about the potty with us.

Our current "challenges" in EC:

1. signing/signalling/communicating when she needs to go to the potty
2. taking herself to the potty
3. holding her pee during diaper free time until she goes on the potty
4. initiating the communicate to need to use the potty

So I think that's all to the trail right now.

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Neat! Thank for sharing! I think it's fine to still call it a trail!

My son actually never went to the potty on his own until recently. He is almost 20 months now. She will get there. Smile And I actually still help my son; when he is too sleepy at night/first thing in the morning, I just hold him over a bowl. I wasn't good at reading his signals for pees before recently so only did EC part time and mainly went for the poos, but now he either just goes to the potty himself for those, or wakes up crying or making a fuss noise because he has to go but is too sleepy to get up. But he totally holds it for the potty. Smile

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"yipeeladybug" wrote:

Our current "challenges" in EC:

1. signing/signalling/communicating when she needs to go to the potty
2. taking herself to the potty
3. holding her pee during diaper free time until she goes on the potty
4. initiating the communicate to need to use the potty

So I think that's all to the trail right now.

Evie is 15 mths now, and has made great progress in these areas. She is telling us (tho not always consistently) when she needs to go potty...however, at the very least, she will tell us now when she has gone...and keep telling us until we change her diaper (with underwear we can tell right away).

Sometimes she will tell us she wants to go upstairs (to use the potty). She will even take us to the potty, altho this has only happened a couple of times so far.

She is getting better at holding her pee during diaper free time, but it's slow progress. There is usually one accident a day, sometimes two.

The big bonus tho is that she is now willing to use a toilet insert to pee and poop!!! We just tried it last week and then took the insert (as well as potty) with us to our MIL's out of town and she has been improving! So far, we just take her to the insert right after naps and waking up in the morning, when we know she *has* to go.

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Sounds like good progress to me!

Love your signature photo.

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YAY!

The toilet insert seems like such a huge step!

Where did you find underwear that fits? I’ve never been able to find any that doesn’t fall off instantly!

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"sarahsunshine" wrote:

YAY!

The toilet insert seems like such a huge step!

Where did you find underwear that fits? I’ve never been able to find any that doesn’t fall off instantly!

Yes, for us the toilet insert was a big step for Evie. We tried at 10 mths and she just wasn't comfortable using it. Now she is much better at using it. I found that at this age (15 mths), she is beginning to understand there is a whole process with regards to using the toilet and she get pretty involved. She asks for toilet paper now to "wipe" herself (altho really she is just shoving paper between her legs so that it falls into the toilet bowl!), she waves bye bye with me before we flush the toilet, points out the water going down the toilet, and we wash our hands together. She likes doing all that.

We bought 18 mth underwear from Walmart when Evie was 9-10 mths old and washed it in hot water cycle to shrink it. It was kinda big at first but it fits great now. We have 24 mth underwear on standby...but it's big for her right now of course.

I know there are specific brands of infant underwear you can order online if the Walmart ones don't work out, they have links at Diaper Free Baby: http://www.diaperfreebaby.org/supplylinks.htm?&MMN_position=118:94.

WOW!!! Ivy looks like a tall baby in your siggy!! What size does she wear??? Evie is pretty tall for her age, 15 mths and in size 2T already. 24 mths don't even fit her anymore: too short and too wide.

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Um... Ivy wears anything from 3months to 24 months! She's a skinny kid so the 3month dress/pant outfits fit her perfectly as shirts and shorts! We have a very hard time finding things for her that aren't three times to wide and showing her belly button at the same time! I'm hoping she's added another pound or so this month... to break 18!

I'll take a look for underwear in 18mo size next time we go to Vol*D*mart (I hate that store and try to avoid it).

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"sarahsunshine" wrote:

I'll take a look for underwear in 18mo size next time we go to Vol*D*mart (I hate that store and try to avoid it).

You will not believe how much DH hates that store too....but for the sake of his daughter, he's been there more times (like maybe 3) in the past year than he has the rest of his entire life.

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After a bad day yesterday (poop in the pull-up...twice! 1st in a long time), she did great today.

But the newest achievement: she walked to her potty, sat on it and peed. All on her own. Yay!

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WOW! Evie! That is Amazing!

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HPT+ on CD 30....
Does this mean what I think it means???;)

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Oh sorry! Didn't realize I haven't been back in a while. It was...but then it turned out to be a chem pg. Sad

Onto EC news, Evie has been pretty much accident free for almost a week or so. She is letting us know when she needs to go to the potty...altho some times I suspect she also asks to go potty b/c she *loves* to look at the kid pictures in the parenting magazines in the bathroom. The big development recently is that we are letting her nap in just her cotton training pants now!! In the past 2 or 3 days, she's wet the training pants once....but apparently held it b/c the training pants were only damp, the pj pants almost didn't have any moisture and her gro-bag and bed linens were fine! We are working towards nighttime EC, but we all still love our sleep too much....

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OMG she just did the potty hand sign for me....unprompted!!! It has taken only...10 mths of showing her all along LOL. In the end, it was the picture of the little boy doing the potty sign in one of the EC books that got her to do it.

We are continuing with wearing underwear during daytime naps. Her stats are 50/50 right now...the 50% peed her underwear seems to happen most often when she is overtired before putting her down for a nap....then she just doesn't seem to wake up when she needs to go.

She is continuing to be accident free in her training pants while awake, and letting us know when she needs to potty. We've taken her out on short outings (

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Geez, another month just like that.

Well, Evie is doing pretty good. She is generally in cloth underwear except when we go in 2+ hour outings. And even those ones, she signals that she needs to use the potty and is more willing to go on public toilets, esp ones that she is familiar and comfortable with (ie. "luxurious", large, generally wheelchair accessible, washroom stalls. More often than not, she will have dry pullups from the time we leave until the time we return home, usually 4 hrs out of the house.

She was excited to see a child's toilet at the Calgary Stampede when we took her there last weekend. She peed there not once but twice in that toilet...and we were there for 4 hours. Went home to a dry pull up.

The most exciting development this week is that she has started to stay dry overnite too. She generally sleeps about 10-12 hours (just started her on 1 nap a day) and was usually unable to stay dry, b/c that is an awfully long stretch. Unfortunately we are going away soon so she will continue to be in pullups until we return from vacation....then we are going to try her in cotton underwear overnite and see what happens.

The newest challenge for us now is that she is so into playing nowadays that she doesn't always want to go (or signal) potty until it's too late. She actually peed in the living room once recently, she hasn't done that in months. I know it's not regression....just a new development b/c she of course has changed and is just so into play play play!

So that's what's happening with us. We are putting her in daycare in Sept, when she turns 19 mths old. Will she be completely potty trained by then. We'll just have to wait and see!

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Whoa! Long overdue update needed.

Evie is pretty much EC'd daytime now all the time. The only time we put her in a pullup now is overnite (she still pees in her pullup most nites) and long haul car trips (to see out of town family).

She started daycare last month, and she has a few new challenges, which sometimes causes accidents. They are mostly to do with pulling down her pants and underwear and not telling daycare staff when she needs to go. She really doesn't get the concept of pulling down her own pants and underwear; she *thinks* that that's someone else's job. I've been trying to encourage her to learn to pull down her pants and then pull them up after she's gone potty, but it's a slow process. She adjusted well to daycare, but she just seems uncomfortable to talk to daycare staff about anything, and so she never tells them when she needs to go, she just tries to hold it until the next time they put her on the potty....and sometimes she can't hold. :confused:

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Sounds like overall she is doing great. I really can't remember the pulling up/down of the pants being an issue for #1, sorry no advice for that. But #1 is nearly 3 and refuses to talk to the dc people, she just holds it up whole time she is in their care (usually an hour or 2, not all day).

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Could a day care worker not ask her periodically if she'd like to go? Seems that would help everyone.

Good going Evie!

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"gardenbug" wrote:

Could a day care worker not ask her periodically if she'd like to go? Seems that would help everyone.

Good going Evie!

Well....I know they have quite a few kids between the 2-3 of the daycare staff, so I don't expect that they will have time to ask more often as I would like, but they do take her and the other kids for their turn on the potties every couple of hours. That's why she is more willing to hold her pee than tell anyone.

I am finding it a little frustrating in general that she seems too shy or reserved or something to let the daycare staff know, b/c she will talk up a storm with us, and she enjoys interacting and talking with her little friends. She's been in daycare for about 6 wks now, so I hope with more time she will feel better about talking with the daycare staff.

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So a few breakthroughs:

1. she is actually talking to the daycare staff!!! still, nowhere near having any kind of conversation with them and what i saw had nothing to do with pottying, but i know that she did call out one of the daycare workers by name and asked for her help with the sand table. And if she is doing that, then she is likely asking them to potty when she needs to.....

2. she has taken herself to the potty at daycare and pulled down her own pants and underwear - AND tried to put herself on the potty!! only downside: she hasn't learned how to sit far back enough on the toilet seat (or maybe is scared to) and hence had an accident that time. but the daycare staff did notice she has taken that initiative so they have been keeping an eye on her when she heads for the potty....

3. while i have been caring for her at home this week b/c she is sick (with the flu we have finally figured out), she showed me that she could place her potty on the floor (we set it aside on a shelf off the floor), pull down her pants and underwear AND ask me to help sit her down (the potty is on hardwood and she doesn't feel secure unless someone is sitting her down on the potty).....and she holds her pee the entire time!!

Still peeing overnite so keeping her in pullups. I suspect she will be in nitetime pullups for a long time since she still insists on drinking her 2 oz of milk right before she's in bed. *sigh*

At daycare, out of a dozen kids, she is one of 3 who uses the potty, the rest are in diapers. One of the pottying kids is 9 mths older than Evie (who is 20 mths old) and the other kid is almost 3, he is going to the preschool room next month.

I am proud of my DD....but have to say I am somewhat horrified so many of these toddlers are still in diapers!

And actually.....I remember reading some article from a parenting newsletter by Alberta Health Services I got when Evie last had her shots at 18 mths....it actually said not to bother potty training babies until they are at least 2 years old, they won't get it. I was livid. Simply by making a statement like that, so many Albertan parents won't even try EC now. Grrrrrr!!! /soapbox

Anyways, most parents are amazed to learn that Evie is only 20 mths and potty-trained (essentially). I'm just glad it was such an easy journey for us.....

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It certainly seems easier with just one child, but Sarahsunshine is doing well with Leo and Ivy both, even though they've had colds and flue at home. I can't imagine dragging toilet training out until age 3 with younger kids around as well..

In my case, there were 5 years between the children, so training would have been easy enough...if it had ever occurred to me! I must have read statements like the one you did. The idea of training early was always countered by statements that it was the parents being trained, not the infant.

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It is so encouraging to hear the success stories! I'm glad Evie is doing so well, it really is so rare for them to be potty trained at her age!

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"yipeeladybug" wrote:

And actually.....I remember reading some article from a parenting newsletter by Alberta Health Services I got when Evie last had her shots at 18 mths....it actually said not to bother potty training babies until they are at least 2 years old, they won't get it. I was livid. Simply by making a statement like that, so many Albertan parents won't even try EC now. Grrrrrr!!! /soapbox

Anyways, most parents are amazed to learn that Evie is only 20 mths and potty-trained (essentially). I'm just glad it was such an easy journey for us.....

new here but had to say something, i have read that in a few of jades development guides now and i agree, it's one thing for the child to show NO interest in it while they work on something else but to tell parents not to even bother is absurd. it's so encouraging to read a thread like this, thank you for sharing this journey! it seems like the national average is getting to be a norm for 3 year olds to still be in dipes Sad
WTG Evie and such great progress!!

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Awww thanks Mara, I totally agree with you, if your kid just doesn't seem ready for potty training, don't force the issue, but to not even try when they are young and esp when they act like they're ready....well, to me, it's just sad.

You know, I think at the rate Jade is going, it wouldn't surprise me if she was potty trained even sooner than Evie!! Evie did not understand peeing in the potty until she was at least 11 mths old; altho she was good with pooping in the potty right away. But Jade is doing both so well in just a few days!

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So, no daytime accidents (altho she missed a poo yesterday (first miss in months), but it was pretty loose and she was super upset, so I am sure she will work on preventing it), but we have new challenges right now....

Evie won't go pee when we want her to. Specifically, before we head out the door and before going to bed. For a while, it got so bad that she would freak if we even got her near the toilet!!! And then she would hold her pee for hours and freak me out, esp as she just had a bad flu a few weeks ago and had some dehydration initially.

I have backed off on encouraging her to pee, b/c I guess to her it's like forcing the situation (and maybe I really have). We let her pee when she wants, and usually she tells us, so now she will pee every 3-4 hrs. Seems to be holding it way longer than she should....is she??

She also appears to want to decide WHEN she will pee, also another reason why I backed off. I'm not happy when it comes to before outings and before bedtime. We just keep asking her from time to time while out and we've had to wake her up 2-3 hrs after she falls asleep to put her on the potty to pee. Sometimes she's peed her pullup already; other times, she stays dry all nite long.

So, we're trusting her to tell us when she needs to go (except at night time)...works mostly, it seems.

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I am not for going on cue. My reason is because I was pted by 18 months. My mom sat me on the potty first thing in the morning, before we'd go anywhere, when we came home, after meals, etc. So now I am like pavlovs dogs. Before I leave my house or go to bed, I have to pee like 12 times. Peeing is the very last thing I do before I go to sleep, if not I wake up like 20 times feeling like I have to pee, although I don't really have to. Does that make sense?

I never night eced #1, but about Evies age, she just started doing it on her own, but still had occassionally accidents. By the time she was 2, she only wanted to wear undies at night and refused to wear pullups and stayed dry all the time.

She never goes on cue, she goes when she wants. It is a fight if I ask her to go before something, so I just don't. She never has accidents. I think it could be a lot of just their ages. That is something they have control over, kwim?

If she doesn't fight you about wearing the pullups, I'd let her continnue to wear the pullup at night and not wake her up, but that is just me, I like sleep Lol

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sounds like things are going great! i always feel so proud when jade gets mad that she had a miss, not sure why, it's not my accomplishment, it's hers!!
i would agree with not pushing, it sounds like she's doing a normal 'push the boundaries, i'm a big girl' development and letting her chart this part seems like a good idea. do you have a travel pot for outings? i've seen a few commercial ones but i hear that an old tupperware works just as well, curious as to how those are handled/tolerated by the kids. keep up the great work momma!!

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Well, it appears that Evie is more or less potty trained for day. We started having a little trouble late Nov or early Dec at daycare where she would just keep playing outside in her snowsuit and just pee in her snowpants, and one time where she actually made it to the kid's toilet they have there, but decided to pee in her pants right there. Daycare staff suggested putting her in regular underwear and not letting her wear training pants anymore.

We've done that and Evie has stayed dry ever since (as long as you don't count the oops! wet spot of pee in her pants) during the day for about 3 weeks or so. She now either tells us she needs to go pee/poop (usually in a huge panic) or starts grabbing her crotch and do the peepee dance and will hold it now for however long it takes before she sits on the potty/toilet.

So our new challenge is to get her to stay dry overnite. I mentioned before that she was resisting us taking her to the potty to pee before she went to bed. Anyways, once we took her training pants, she did miss them. We asked her if she wanted to wear training pants to bed and she said yes. So we told her that if she wanted to wear training pants, she needed to show us that she could stay dry overnite for 3 nights ie. not wet her pull ups.

She missed the first time, but then she caught on quick and in less than a week she was able to stay dry overnite for 3 consecutive nights. She wore her training pants to bed and then woke us up at 3 am b/c she peed in them (but not much, she still managed to hold it for the toilet!). So last night we put her in pull ups again (and she agreed she wanted pull ups)...but this morning she had a dry pull up again - and she STTN!!! We are ecstatic! We know now that it's only a matter of time before she will STTN and stay dry overnite.

Sorry for the long story....just catching up. Smile

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sounds great!

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GREAT!!!

It looks like we will likely be waiting for a little while to do night-time PTing since Ivy seems to have a total melt down if we ever try to take her to the toilet at night or first thing in the morning.

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"sarahsunshine" wrote:

GREAT!!!

It looks like we will likely be waiting for a little while to do night-time PTing since Ivy seems to have a total melt down if we ever try to take her to the toilet at night or first thing in the morning.

You know, Evie was totally like this about her age (about 2-3 mths ago).

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yay!!! keep up the great work! i love reading about all the success, pause, success!!!

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"yipeeladybug" wrote:

You know, Evie was totally like this about her age (about 2-3 mths ago).

Ahh... so Ivy probably won't be wetting the bed until university! Good! Blum 3

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LOL Sarah!

Well, tonite we were opening up xmas gifts that arrived today from DH's gma, so we ran a little late on her bedtime. Evie was very tired and just refused to pee, so we had to put her in pull ups tonite, explaining to her that if she didn't peepee right before bed, she had to be in a pull up so that she wouldn't end up sleeping in her pee and get the chills (it has happened once and I felt terrible about it). I was so sad about having to put pull ups on her (and she totally didn't want it). But so far, she has been dry for 2 nites in her training pants, I'm proud of her.

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Geez, it's been a while! Well, Evie is pretty much daytime potty-trained. In fact, for a while, she was doing great at night as well, I could put her in training pants and she would sleep about 8-10 hrs before waking up to pee. It did make me a bit tired since I tend to sleep later, but so worth it.

However, in the past couple of nights, she has started peeing in bed again, so tonite we've put pullups on. And now we've just figured out that maybe it's her teething that interrupting her nighttime potty progress. A bit disappointing but really I know it's just temporary.

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congrats on getting her so close!! wtg evie! teeth make sense. and congrats on the ticker update!

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Thanks Mara, I'm pretty happy right now, I've been TTC for over a year, even had an GYN appt scheduled, and then got my BFP. I just hope now that this baby sticks!

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I just stopped by and saw your signature... Big hugs...

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:bighug:

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Let us know how you are doing. Thinking of you! :bigarmhug:

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Thanks ladies, I appreciate the hugs. This last chem pg/m/c has hit me particularly hard as I really thought that everything was in order but the test lines never really got darker. Not only that, but Evie has been asking for a sister ever since. :confused:

However, I did go to my Mar 30 gyn appt and the dr wasted no time get me tested for all kinds of stuff, mostly blood tests and an HSG. Since my cycles have always be fairly regular, she figures it's just age related and that I will get pg, but it's going to take longer and higher chance of m/c.

In other news, Evie was pretty good, totally potty trained day and night, but now that she is really insistent on calling the shots these days. She doesn't want to go potty when she is playing, so she has had one daytime accident with us, and lots of night time accidents. I think terrible 2's may play a role....she hardly ever wants to go if we suggest it, and seems to me that if we don't ask, she waits until the last possible moment to go, and even when she knows where the potty is and can pull down her own pants/underwear, she still wants to call for us to help her.....feels like her EC is going backwards, but I think it's just her trying to assert her independence and figure out at what point she wants to go and what to do. For day, we just keep asking or telling her where the potty is and remind/encourage her to go to potty all on her own. At night, a lot of times she refuses to go potty before going to bed. Sometimes, I insist, other times, we just wake her after she has slept 1.5 or 3 hrs and take her to the potty. Tonight, she apparently woke up and asked for help (we still have a monitor in her room) so DH took care of her, as I was dead-to-the-world sleeping.

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Last Post here....

I think this may be my last post...I hope....maybe until she starts teething when the upper 2 yr old molars come in, I dunno.....

Evie has been pretty dry pretty much all the time. She never wets the bed anymore, in fact she wakes up when she needs to pee and starts calling for us to help her with the potty. During the day, she has even taken herself to the potty to pee, wipe herself with toilet paper and then comes to tell us she has peed. She comes to tell us when she needs to pee and/or poop.

The last poop accident was when she had the runs during the winter from stomach flu.

I think I can honestly say now that she completely EC'd/PT'd for both day and night at 2 years 3 mths old. The best part? Not having to face the power struggles I've seen my friend and her 2 sons (both my godsons). With Evie, it's been a pretty easy and truly respectful process.

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Hi Sophia,
First, I want to give you a big hug. I understand what you are going through. It took two years to conceive DD. DS kept asking for a sister. He named her and prayed to God every night for her to come. It was hard. I had a few chemical pregnancies too. I remember the disappointment when the second line would disappear a day or two later.

You have a great story. I hope the 2y teething does not interfere with the potty. I did not do EC with DS, but did start potty training around 14 months. He was almost fully trained by 2, and I don't remember teething interfering.

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Thanks Louise, it makes me feel better, hearing your TTC story. We are keeping on. I truly hope I will be pg one more time, with one or more kids, but at 40, it's hard to say if that will happen. We considered a fertility clinic, but we have decided not to go that route.

It's rather interesting how unique kids are. Evie's EC was never much bothered by sickness, relative to other EC'd kids. And only teething the bottom 2 yr molars have disturbed her from being miss-free. Usually, her main challenge was being aware of pees early on (hence, you starting Julia at 3 or 4 mths is so much better! by 6 mths, Evie already didn't mind a wet diaper), and then being unwilling to go potty when she was playing.

That's so awesome your DS was almost PT by 2. It did not take him long to figure it all out! Smile

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Ok, haven't been on here lately, but I just had to mention this one thing.....

This past week, during the nights she needs to pee (about 50/50 at this point), she has woken up, taken herself to the potty, peed in it, even used toilet paper.

Then cried. Why?

"Because it's too dark!!" She has learned to wake up dry and used the potty (even use toilet paper) but can't figure out where the nightlight is. LOL!!

I'm amazed that she is learning to take care of herself and almost all of her potty needs. She will be 2.5 yo in 2 wks' time.

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Geez, haven't been here in a long time! Evie pretty much takes care of herself and her needs now, tells us when she needs to go and can hold it until she gets to the toilet. The big thing last week is that we finally took her potty away b/c she is really too big for it and also b/c she can hold so much pee that it spills easily trying to carry it to the toilet. It's a big deal b/c we've been leaving her potty on the main floor (where there is no washroom) and now she needs to learn to hold it until she can climb the stairs (either to upstairs or downstairs bathroom) to use the toilet. So far so good!