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***Breastfeeding Support Thread***

I know several people were interested in having a support thread for breastfeeding but I didn't see where one had been started. So here we go!

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Yay!!

Isn't there somewhere else on this site for BF as well?

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Yeah there is a BF board, but it's nice to have some here too Smile

Plenty of mamas that have BF previously, full of advice and knowledge.

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I nursed Ds almost 14 months and went back to work after 12 weeks and pumped. It was hard but worth it! The BF boards are great. Some really knowledgeable ladies over there!!!!

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My milk came in! I'm letting Carter nurse and I'm pumping. I got two ounces pumped my first time! Yay!

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Awesome Jenni!! I nursed DS for 13-14 months. He actually never had any formula (though I have NOTHING against formula DH and I are both formula babies and we're just fine! I was just lucky to have an easy time of it). I look forward to this thread especially if I have any latching issues -- DS was pretty good right out of the gate I never saw a LC or did anything special. I'm hoping it goes as well this time but I know every time is different!

We're actually in the process of buying a chest freezer so my milk can be frozen for 12 months. I had CRAZY over supply with Evan and pumped 5-10oz extra a day at first. Now on one hand I probably shouldn't do that only b/c it was hard to wean off it BUT the extra milk was really nice when he was older and my pumping wasn't as efficient.

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Wahoo for mama milk! 2 oz is a really great start Jenni, you should be proud!

I fed DS up until 1 year and then he weaned himself, it was sad but it was nice to make it to the year mark. DS was tongue tied at birth and had trouble latching the first couple of days, we had his tongue snipped while we were at the birthing center and DS made leaps and bounds with feeding.

I was a formula fed baby too, Katie. I just found bfing a lot cheaper and easier.

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Yay I am really going to need help, this.time around! I have been pumping since the boys.were born and now that they are home I would.really like to nurse , i have tried with little success..their mouths are zoo tiny so it makes it a little more difficult.. I was able to nurse dominic today for like 5 mins if that...but hey that's a start!!

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Yay I am really going to need help, this.time around! I have been pumping since the boys.were born and now that they are home I would.really like to nurse , i have tried with little success..their mouths are zoo tiny so it makes it a little more difficult.. I was able to nurse dominic today for like 5 mins if that...but hey that's a start!!

That is a great start! Keep at it. I pump and nurse. It really works for us. My little porkchop can really eat! He had 8 ounces yesterday. The pumping helps keep my breasts from aching and also is helping me transition in by giving my nipples a break from his super latch. I'm so happy that your twins are home and you're doing so well. Something that I thought I'd mention is I dab a tiny bit of lanolin on each nipple before I pump for lubrication. It really makes pumping more comfortable.

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Ok girls...I'm not feeling my milk 'let down'. That tingly feeling that the bfing books talk about is not there. I can pump about 2 ounces on each side for a session with alternating putting Carter to breast. Do you think maybe my milk hasn't completely arrived? Or maybe I have low or just adequate supply? I don't leak at all. Insight, anyone?

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"Jenni Beth" wrote:

Ok girls...I'm not feeling my milk 'let down'. That tingly feeling that the bfing books talk about is not there. I can pump about 2 ounces on each side for a session with alternating putting Carter to breast. Do you think maybe my milk hasn't completely arrived? Or maybe I have low or just adequate supply? I don't leak at all. Insight, anyone?

I sometimes did not feel let down. As long as he has enough wet and dirty diapers you should be fine. When you pump, you should see the milk flowing quicker when you let down. HTH and good luck. I was so confused the first month or 2!!!!

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Now that I think about it, when I nursed DD I really never felt 'let down' at all during the 7 months I nursed her. It wasn't until I nursed DS that I actually learned what it felt like! Maybe some people just don't feel it like others do.

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I didn't feel let down until much later - around 8 or 12 weeks PP I started to feel it and then later I really felt it. If you're pumping that much and nursing at the breast I imagine you're supply is totally fine

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My right breast produces more than my left. When I pump now I get about 3 ounces from right and 2 ounces from left. Normal????!

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I'd guess that's normal. I drove myself crazy trying to 'even them out' not so much for production but size-wise :oops: with no success over 14 months. I wasn't really measuring though, DD wouldn't take a bottle though I froze quite a bit, the bonus from that though she always got what she wanted & there was no worrying about how much (we just watched the diapers). Are you left handed?

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I'm right handed. Size wise they are pretty even but production wise right is winning. Kinda weird.

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My right was always my winner - and I read it's totally normal. Wonder if it will be the same this time....

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i didn't feel let down for a lonnnnng time. and i definitely think i had more milk in one boob. not totally sure though because i wasn't a successful pumper.

the bottom line with breastfeeding is: if you're wondering if something is normal, it probably is! lol! as long as the baby is getting pee and poo diapers, you're a-ok.

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"Jenni Beth" wrote:

My right breast produces more than my left. When I pump now I get about 3 ounces from right and 2 ounces from left. Normal????!

yes. My right was always a better producer than the left. I always started on the right side once things got established. The left never caught up the entire 13 months!!! If he is peeing and pooping enough you are good Smile

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even though I am still preggo, this thread is giving me good review before I start nursing!!!!

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even though I am still preggo, this thread is giving me good review before I start nursing!!!!

Me too, Robin! I can't wait to join this thread!

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Day 3 of breasfeeding and I can finally feel my milk coming in. I forgot how painful the first couple of days are, and can see why so many mums give up when they see their baby not getting enough. Aubrey is feeding pretty well and cluster feeding at night into the early hours of the morning.

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I think my supply is drying up!!!!!!! When I pumped tonight I got 1 ounce from left and 1.5 ounce from right. I usually pump twice a day and that may be why I'm losing my milk. I'm just now getting to where I can sit on my bottom. We're still supplementing with formula. I don't want to give up bfing but what do I do?! Help!!!!!

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I'm not an expert - posting over on the BF'ing board can help but things I've read

DRINK TONS! Really you need SO much fluid!

Eat oatmeal! I've read the "real" ones are best I like steel cut so that's always what I ate.

Relax - being tense can make pumping hard

And mostly have him nurse as much as possible the more he stimulates your breasts the more you'll produce. There were times in the beginning Evan was nursing constantly. I remember sitting at night with DH watching TV and just swapping him side to side from 7-11 almost non stop. I couldn't hold him w/o him wanting to nurse at night. It was exhausting but it didn't last more than a few weeks (ignoring growth spurts where he ate like that all day and night).

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Nursing Vacation!

Carter and I are officially on a nursing vacation. I read on Kelly mom that this would help boost my dwindling supply so here we go. We're spending the next two days in bed napping and watching movies. I'm going to let him nurse as long as he wants as often as he wants to stimulate more production. Matt is going to keep me supplied with plenty of food and lots of fluids. I've got my baby boy stripped down to a diaper and me in a nursing sleep bra and yoga pants so we can have plenty of skin to skin contact. I know I'll still have to supplement but hopefully this will start the milk factory up. I'm feeling better and can now somewhat sit on my bottom...enough to comfortably nurse him. So that is going to be my weekend and I'm very much looking forward to it!

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Good for you Jenni! I hope you can boost your supply! You should get Matt to make you some lactation cookies too! I hear they are really tasty!

http://www.epicurious.com/recipes/member/views/LACTATION-COOKIES-1252680

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Thanks for the recipe! I have heard of these. We'll try them out this weekend.

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Ohh enjoy! He's probably still to young/small to nurse laying down but OMG there is nothing easier! I had issues with clogged ducts and would just let Evan nurse and nurse while we were laying around. It was wonderful. GL! And no matter what you sound like you're doing great! Especially considering what a hard recovery you've had!

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"Jenni Beth" wrote:

Carter and I are officially on a nursing vacation. I read on Kelly mom that this would help boost my dwindling supply so here we go. We're spending the next two days in bed napping and watching movies. I'm going to let him nurse as long as he wants as often as he wants to stimulate more production. Matt is going to keep me supplied with plenty of food and lots of fluids. I've got my baby boy stripped down to a diaper and me in a nursing sleep bra and yoga pants so we can have plenty of skin to skin contact. I know I'll still have to supplement but hopefully this will start the milk factory up. I'm feeling better and can now somewhat sit on my bottom...enough to comfortably nurse him. So that is going to be my weekend and I'm very much looking forward to it!

kellymom is great! how much formula are you supplementing? Could you try and go a day and not supplement and see how he does? The more you nurse the more you produce!!!
drink lots of fluids! I had a stomach bug when I was nursing and was so dehydrated! Supply went down ALOT!!
enjoy your weekend Smile

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Vent: I have mastitis in my right breast Sad I am on antibiotics 4x daily and have been using a hot compress before feeding and expressing after a feed if Aubrey hasn't completely drained the milk. I never had any problems nursing DS so I couldn't believe it when I woke up this morning to a huge red hard patch on my breast. Fingers crossed it clears up soon.

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I'm so sorry, Nicole! That sounds terrible. It sounds like she's a good nurser though. How long will it take to clear up?

AFM- we've been having a lot of trouble the past few days. So much that I've debated on quitting. I cried about it all day yesterday. My mom came over and said "oh, you have flat nipples like me" then she told me to I needed these nipple shields to help him nurse. So I sent Matt out to Babies R Us and he got me some of the Tommee Tipee ones and freakin guess what...they actually worked! Carter can get and stay latched on his own and I can see my milk is coming out! I never thought I'd be so happy to see his chin all wet. My supply is down, though. We went to the store and bought a lactation herb tea and the ingredients to make those cookies that Sandra posted. The tea wasn't too bad and the cookies were pretty good too. We will see what today brings. I hope I'm not too late in trying to get my milk back.

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Jenni Carter isn't even 2 weeks old I am sure you can turn things around! So glad you found something that seems to help! But don't be too hard on yourself Carter is very lucky no matter what!

Nicole - sorry about the mastitis Sad I had it once with Evan and many clogged ducts it is NO fun!

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Oh Nicole, I'm so sorry! I have had mastitis with both kids. With DD, she was 4 months old, and we got through it fine. Then with DS I had it when he was 1 week old. I know what kind of hell that is.

Praying for a fast recovery for you!

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Jenni, I'm so glad the nipple shield helped! I'm sure you'll be able to get your supply back up, just keep nursing as much as possible! Drain your breasts and let him suck even longer before you give him any formula. I hope the tea and cookies help!

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Hey! So happy to find this thread. Smile I have been pumping or BF for 6 weeks tomorrow. He came home from the NICU almost 4 weeks ago and have been exclusivly nursing him for 2 weeks!! Smile

But I just found out todday that we have thrush. Sad SOOOO painful...

I have huge mental problems with Bf. I have never been able to Bf my kids for as long as I wanted to (6m, 4m and 5m) and this being my last one, I really want to do it for like 9-12m.

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nicole - so sorry about the mastitis. i had it twice with thomas and it was BRUTAL! the antibiotics landed me on the toilet for like 2 days straight. i hope that your mastitis clears up quickly. do you have a fever? try try try to take care of yourself. it's a real bummer! and i'm sure your boobs hurt!

megan - congrats again on doing a great job bf'ing!

jenni - how are you feeling today? any better? how has the nursing gone? have you tried to skip the bottle at all? i know your little guy will seem fussy but if you want to keep up the bf'ing you will need to keep him at the boob instead of giving him the formula. he is still so young, i'm sure you're not drying up! bf'ing is SO frustrating, isn't it? you'd think it would be easy since it's, you know, nature.

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i'm already preparing myself to give my new little one a bottle. i made the mistake with thomas of not ever giving him a bottle. sure, i eventually became successful at bf'ing but my mental health was completely hindered in the process! i'll do the best i can. i don't have the luxury of being able to just lay around with the new baby at the breast like i did with my first. thomas is going to need his mommy too! though i will make a better go at trying to nurse with the baby in the ergo or the moby. we'll see if that helps things.

keep up the good work everyone!

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I swear every time Evan made a noise I nursed him. Every night I'd just sit around swapping sides. Part of me is looking forward to it again part of me is a bit nervous - it is very very restrictive at first.

Bottles aren't really negotiable here, Evan was always good about going back and forth. Since I work 3 days a week he had to. But when I didn't work I virtually never used them, after the first month or two BF'ing was SOOOOOOOO much easier than pumping, bottles, cleaning etc.

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Doing a little better today but not much. He was up all night last night alternating between fussing and screaming. We tried nursing, formula, the swing, the glider, skin to skin...nothing was working. I finally got to sleep around 5am and slept until 8 when he woke back up..would not nurse...gave him a bottle and waited for Matt to get back from his morning class. Then Matt took him so I could sleep for a few hours...got up at 2..went to get my car (remember the wreck over a month ago???)..did some errands while Matt watched the baby. I pumped twice today which I know isn't enough. Got 2 ounces the first time 1.5 the second. I finally got the baby to nap and I took a shower, washed dishes, did a load of laundry, pumped, and ate dinner. Oh. Did I mention that I'm having terrible stomach cramps and diarrhea? Yeah. Bad. It is excruciating to nurse him at this point. My nipples hurt so bad when he latches on..with or without the shields. I must be doing something wrong. I'm so very close to quitting. I didn't go to the lactation place today since I didn't have time so I'm going tomorrow after Carter's 1045 appt. I've cried and cried over this. I cry when I feed him because it hurts. I cry every time I give him another bottle of formula because I feel so damn guilty. Feeding my baby has been an absolute horrible experience.

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Nicole: So sorry....oweee....I am having my 3rd bout of clogged duct and that is painful enough for me.:( Take it easy and take extra good care of yourself.

Jenni: I am so sorry that you are having a difficult time. And I can relate on the frustration and sadness, but don't despair and don't give up! You can do this. I think you must have a latch issue with Carter if it hurts so much. I am glad that you are going to see a LC tomorrow. I went today, and, I swear, it was like a BFing therapy session. LOL. She really helped me feel better about where the twins and I are, and to realize that it can take weeks for things to click into shape.

((HUGS)) to you. This should be a positive experience for you, and with time it will be--whether you continue to BF or not. Believe me, I know about unpleasant situations--I **HATE** my pump most days. But, I know it is helping me supply my LO's with precious milk and it keeps my supply up so that when they "get it" and start nursing I will be ready. Again, Jenni, don't be hard on yourself. You are a great mom and are doing the best you can. Let us know how your appt goes tomorrow.

Me? Let's see....my 33 weekers were in the NICU for about two and a half weeks. My little boy came home 2 days before my little girl. She is home on a monitor because she continued to have "brady" episodes (drop in HR secondary to apnea). They are both doing well and I am so happy to have them home. HOWEVER, this BFing isn't going as well or as quickly as I had hoped.

Since they were born I have been pumping my BM every 3 hours (round the clock--day and night) to keep up my supply and to supply them with 100% BM bottles. Pumping every 3 hours, plus feeding two newborns every 3 hours--doesn't leave much time to sleep or do much else other than clean pump parts, bottles, babies' bottoms, etc. I literally sleep in 60-90 minute chunks of time. I am utterly exhausted and a bit exasperated about my difficulty in getting the babies to switch off the bottles. My little boy latches on fairly well, but then promptly falls asleep. My little girl hardly opens her mouth and so if I let her latch on it HURTS so I have to take her off and try again. After a few tries she usually clamps her mouth closed. Sigh.

Today I went to see a LC. She was very reassuring and helped me feel a lot better and less incompetent. LOL. She said it can take weeks, sometimes longer. Especially for preemies to become mature enough to understand and get the hang of BFing. She also helped take some of the pressure off as I was feeling strong need to 100% BF NOW or else I was a failure.

So---despite being exhausted with my current schedule, I plan to continue and hope that as my LOs approach 40 weeks (3 weeks to go) that they will get better skilled at BFing. In the meantime I will offer the breast as often as I feel comfortable and do my best to keep things positive.

***Side note*** How many of you that are BFing are giving vitamins? I was told to, but then I read that it wasn't really necessary except for possibly Vitamin D. I am thinking about ordering Vitamin D drops and stopping the other. The babies hate it, it stains everything, it upsets their tummies and is possibly unnecessary? Wanted other's opinions. Thanks!!:)

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I didn't give evan anything but vit d. I take extra (when I remember) but there's very little chance to get a baby in good sunlight in winter in upstate NY so I figure Vit D makes sense. Everything else ehhhh I didn't bother. That's not really a well educated researched response though but my doc was supportive.

Hugs Jenni! I hope the LC can help. Good support is very important. It's so hard when you're tired and your body still hurts and the baby is cranky. And all of that can impact your supply too. Try to stay positive. You CAN do it but there's nothing wrong with not doing it if it's not working out.

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Hugs for Jenni! IMHO nursing does hurt, it does, with a good latch not as much, but still! DS has clamped down on me 3 times since we brought him home - yowie!!! DD was pretty funny after that scene, re-enacting it with her dolly :). And for you, when the rest of your body is in pain from recovery, lack of sleep, stress, hormones, frustration, brand-new-mommy etc. All factored, of course it can be unbearable!!!! IDK if other Mommies will agree with me, but I wanted u 2 know it is not just all in your head!

I noticed in the last couple days DS roots around and goes a little crazy & it looks like he is having trouble latching... this drove me nuts in the first 2 days, very frustrating. Since then my instinct tells me it helps him shape the nipple, so I let him go ahead and then he can latch on totally by himself. No more boobie sandwich, it's really not necessary since those first couple of days. No more stressing over latch and hold and all of that junk they had me stressing about in the hospital. Not that their advice was wrong, I just think it was the extra advice he/we needed in those first couple of days while we got to know each other.

Vitamin D drops - yay the hospital gave me a bottle for DS & it has no taste or smell!!!
http://myrealreview.ca/baby-ddrops-review-and-giveaway/ I'm going to try it with his afternoon nursing today (just incase it makes him throw up). The stuff the Doc prescribed for DD 5 years ago was horrid... it stank of orangerind (bitter, eww) and from what I recall tasted the same. I used it 3x, DD threw it up each time, I threw it out and lied to the doctor every time she asked. Blum 3 But, DD was born in April so there WAS sunshine for her daily. Never been told they need anything more - does the doctor think the twins need extra vitamins because they were premature? If they are otherwise healthy and you eat a good healthy diet I would think they otherwise will be getting all they need (except D) through you???

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checking in here - how's it going to the mom's BF'ing? We are doing well - I can tell he'll be a comfort nurser already like his brother was. Sigh. Hopefully I'll master baby wearing and nursing that would give me my arms! Anyone any good at that? Suggestions?

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Hopefully I'll master baby wearing and nursing that would give me my arms! Anyone any good at that? Suggestions?

I'm also super curious about this feeding while wearing thing!

We're working hard around here to increase my milk. Our routine is to give him 1 ounce of supplement, nurse for 40 minutes and then I pump for 20 while his Dad gives him another ounce. I'd never, ever pumped more than 1/2 ounce before - until today when I pumped 2 ounces after his feeding! I'm feeling hopeful that maybe my supply might be okay in the end Smile

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I have huge boobs so really need two hands every time I nurse to hold his head in place and my boob in place. So nursing in a carrier is sort of impossible right now. Once baby is a little older it's easier to do it in a carrier. I have done it in the ergo a bunch of times. But now with a toddler I will probably need to figure out how to do that earlier.

Bf'ing is going pretty well for us. On Wednesday and Thursday nights DH gave one bottle of formula around 4am so I could sleep. I never did that Thomas and I'm glad I'm dong it now bc with two kids I will need some sleep! Last night baby had a 3 hour stretch so I didn't take the break bc my boobs would have been to full.

Our latch could probably be improved, especially on the right but other than that we are doing pretty good!!

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Ugh I'm getting the sore spots again. One last night righty one today lefty. Not sure what the cause is but we've cleared them both... noticed DS was doing a tongue clicking especially when on righty so am watching that and have re-latched him when necessary. I put crushed raw garlic in my food and am convinced it helps tonnes.

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What is the garlic supposed to do? Interesting!

I am so full these days. I can't wait for my boobs to figure out how much milk they really need bc they are just so big and ugly now.

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Well, we are at the almost two week mark! I'm happy to say that bf-ing has come pretty easily this time. I struggled with ds and my dh was not supportive-told me baby was going to starve to death before my milk came in and such...he's a worry wort. This time, dh has been great...and he can tell T Is getting enough because she gained a pound from her first check up to the following week. She goes anywhere from 1.5-3.5 hours between feeds. I swaddle her at night and she usually is up twice between midnight and 6/7 am.

But I have a question-T seems to prefer my left boob and the right one has a more forceful let down. Because she had been gassy when I offered her both sides during a feeding, I've been offering her one side each time (alternating), except at night when she gets a little time on the second side to keep me from making a mess in bed. How long does it take to regulate supply? And is there anything I can do to help slow my let down reflex in the right breast?
Thanks!!

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it took quite some time for my supply to be regulated. we're talking months.

my guy seems to prefer lefty over righty too. and he seems to be satisfied after just one boob! i can't do anything to wake him up for boob #2! at night he will sometimes go for the second boob but almost never during the day. so of course my right one is starting to get some hard spots. i've been trying to put him to it more but that's the one i have a very sore nipple on. ah well, it'll work itself out.

as far as a fast letdown, what if you laid on your back and had baby nurse on her belly on top of you? gravity does wonders to your let down. that way she can suck what she wants and probably the milk won't squirt out as quickly when it has to go up!

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Garlic = just seems to help get the bumps out, lol. I swear it works. I'm sure switching positions does help so I'm interested in learning more than our 2.

Nancy when nursing with baby-on-top... do u hold baby's head up so they don't cover their nose or put a little rolled receiving blanket under boob/their chest or what?

Anne can you pump righty off a little before T's feeding?

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Anne I had to do lots of things to get past forceful letdown until Evan was old enough to keep up. Sometimes I'd pop him off and just catch the spray (literally I was like a hose) in a burp cloth then let him nurse. As he got bigger I'd nurse him laying down and he was able to just let the excess dribble out and swallow what he could. It took a few months to really regulate my supply too. I'm thankful for a good supply but I'm hoping perhaps my body won't be so excited to make milk this time - I had to sleep on towels b/c I'd drench the bed every night.....

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Phew my milk came in. Really I'm thinking I was a wet nurse in a past life. Oh there is so much temptation to pump and start my stash but I made that mistake with Evan and the oversupply it created was horrible. So I'm holding off and not pumping for a couple weeks in hopes I can regulate a little then try to get just 4-5oz a day extra with out creating a HUGE oversupply. I need a stash to head back to work but I went a little overboard last time.

Overall nursing is going well. Rory went to the pedi today and since discharge Sunday he's put on 4 oz - she joked that I make High Test milk. He eats every 1-2 hours day and night and it's tiring - she said to expect that for a while b/c he's so big. I'm not a fan of cosleeping (I don't have any issue with it if it works for you I just sleep like crap) but I've had to b/c if I don't I'm like a jack in the box having to jump up every hour alllllllll night long.

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