Between percentiles 5 and 10 for weight. :(

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Nell4Him's picture
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Between percentiles 5 and 10 for weight. :(

So, We had our 6 week check up (a week late) and Evie is only in the 5th to 10th percentile for her weight. Between the 10th and 25th for her height and below 5th for her head circumference.

The doc confirmed an upper lip tie and could not rule out a posterior tongue tie. We are being referred to an IBCLC an hour away for confirmation and referral of treatment.

Evie is eating every 2 hours around the clock and sometimes acts hungry in between those times. She should NOT be gaining so little. No wonder she looked small to me for this age. Sad Of course, my boys were 90th percentiles by the time they were 2 weeks old and they've stayed there ever since. So by comparison she looks REALLY small.

But to end on a positive note, She's pooping again! Yahoo I went completely dairy free by Tuesday last week and she's pooped everyday since Thursday! Yahoo

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What percentile was she in at her 2 week checkup?

It doesnt matter WHAT percentile they're in, as long as they're following *a* curve. Brayden has ALWAYS been in the 10th percentile and likely will remain there. He didnt hit 20 lbs until he was 18 months old and is still wearing 2T pants (that fit and/or are BIG) at 3.5.

ETA: Also, get your pedi to use the WHO height/weight graphs for breastfed babies. The standard ones are based on formula fed caucasian american babies. Breastfed babies grow differently than formula fed babies do.

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What Star said! Did she drop completely off her "normal" curve from the first two weeks?

Very glad to hear that she's pooping again! Smile

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Well, she was
7lbs, 19.5" at birth.
7lbs 8oz, 19.5" at 2 weeks
9lbs 4.5oz, 21.9" today at 7 weeks old.

I found this
and it looks like she was just below 50th at birth a little further below the 50th at 2 weeks and just below the 15th for weight right now. That's IF google converted the lbs to kg correctly AND I read the chart right.

And this
just above 50th at birth, just above 15th for 2 weeks, and just center between 15th and 50th today for height. Again, if converted correctly and read correctly.

Starflyr's picture
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Looks to me like she's tracking just FINE around the 25%.

Dont worry too much. I do think that meeting with and IBCLC and getting the whole tongue/lip thing looked at will be a good thing, though!

Star

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The dairy issue could have inhibited her weight gain too. If she couldn't digest the dairy it could have effected how she was able to process the rest of the nutrients. Keep offering the boob and get the tongue tie looked at and I'm sure she will gain better! :bigarmhug:

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To me it sounds like her tongue tie may be keeping her from shooting up to 90th percentile like your boys but her weight gain isn't worrisome. She is just gaining at her own pace. She's little in her other measurements as well, which makes me think she's doing just fine.

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Yep, she may just be a smaller baby! I wouldn't worry, though I know that's hard to do. lol. I bet between the new diet and getting the tongue tie fixed will help things too, but I don't see any reason to panic by any means. Smile

You're doing great mama! Smile

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I second that many babies are just smaller. My twins are both boys and both bf, and one twin is tiny. He has been in the less than 5% since he was 9mo or so, and barely above it before then (if I remember right). He is 22mo, and at 19mo was barely 20lbs, and only 15% for height. His brother is 25% weight, and at 19mo weight 24lbs, and 50% for height. They eat the same, if anything twin A eats much better than his larger brother. Different kids, different metabolisms. And they both started at the exact same weight, 5lbs 6oz.

Of course, having the tongue tie looked at may help too. But I wouldn't worry too much. Wink

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Janelle please don't give up. What about pumping?

Sending hugs

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"tink9702" wrote:

The dairy issue could have inhibited her weight gain too. If she couldn't digest the dairy it could have effected how she was able to process the rest of the nutrients. Keep offering the boob and get the tongue tie looked at and I'm sure she will gain better! :bigarmhug:

DH said this to me. I agree.

It hit me hard after I had posted and I sent the boys off to my sister's house so I could talk my feelings out with DH. I don't want to hold anything from him that makes me blue in anyway, otherwise PPD might sneak up on me. I told him that I'm worried about having to give her formula to keep her weight up, but he helped me to realize what Ashly mentioned and that's pumping.

I'm going to keep up with the breast feeding and I'm using massage when she starts to slow down to get more milk into her mouth. I'm not doing it right away cause I do want her to still suck, otherwise she might get lazy, so I wait and see what she does first. I've also started allowing myself to be her pacifier in the evenings when DH is here to help with the boys. I'm not pushing the paci on her when she doesn't need it during the day (trying to curb any nipple confusion that might be happening)....

And I'm praying lots each day that the IBCLC's office calls soon so we can get the show on the road and start healing (both physically and emotionally).

I'm going to pick up the zantac today and start giving it to her, this may help our feeding sessions as well (or so the doc says).

Since the doc has us coming in at 4 months next, she is obviously not concerned about her weight. Honestly, she didn't even bring it up. I just was looking it up for a fun comparison of how she grows different from the boys did. I wasn't expecting that MUCH of a difference and my day was kinda stressful and it just hit me kinda hard. I'm okay now, though.

Thank you all for your input and prayers. They are always appreciated. Smile

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it looks like you got some great advice!

Just to throw it in there, wyatt was in the 1-5% up until his 2nd birthday when he finally got to 8% :eek: Most of the charts you pull up are made from information received from formula fed babies so the results are skewed when looking at a breastfed infant. The form of feeding causes the babies to grow differently at different times. As long as your dr isn't worried about it i wouldn't be.

You can also check out this site for charts that are designed for breastfed babies Wink

http://www.kellymom.com/babyconcerns/growth/growthcharts.html

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Thanks.

So I'm having vasospasms now... I'm in a decent amount of pain very randomly and it feels throbbish and especially right where I have a blue vein on my breast (multiple locations). I haven't noticed any nipple colors other than blanching, but no white to blue to red (tri-phasic) so I'm certain it's the condition of my nipples that's causing it. But I also had them while pregnant and just thought they were growing pains (had them with each one) :confused:

Anyway, we leave for the IBCLC tomorrow morning and I probably won't have time to get online right away after we get back.

I'm a little nervous and ready to get to healing, but I understand it's a hard road to recovery with the mouth stretches we'll be told to do.

I keep repeating in my head "it's worth it... it's worth it... it's worth it..."

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You'll get there, mama. We went through a TT/LT revision in June, and a week later I was thrush and vasospasm free (been experiencing both for 6 weeks). And his weight gain really picked up.