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    Katelyn and Marie I'm sorry you're having pain at latching- I had that for a while too- my pain was what my LC called pain that makes your toes curl for a second...but then goes away. Yours sounds a little worse...but, mine did just go away after a while.

    Marie- the eat/wake/sleep cycle is a form of sleep training. It is not something you HAVE to even think or know about if you're not having any issues with how your baby sleeps. I completely follow Beni's cues, and she sleeps fine during the night- and I'm not worried about training her to follow my schedule- I'm happy (and able) to let her get there on her own...but as I said, we're not having any sleep issues. Sleep training is a hot topic- some people swear by it and others are very against it (I am obviously not a fan for me and my baby). If you're interested in parenting without training I recommend reading anything by Dr. Sears- The Baby Book is my absolute favorite right now!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Marite13 View Post
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    Katelyn and Marie I'm sorry you're having pain at latching- I had that for a while too- my pain was what my LC called pain that makes your toes curl for a second...but then goes away. Yours sounds a little worse...but, mine did just go away after a while.

    Marie- the eat/wake/sleep cycle is a form of sleep training. It is not something you HAVE to even think or know about if you're not having any issues with how your baby sleeps. I completely follow Beni's cues, and she sleeps fine during the night- and I'm not worried about training her to follow my schedule- I'm happy (and able) to let her get there on her own...but as I said, we're not having any sleep issues. Sleep training is a hot topic- some people swear by it and others are very against it (I am obviously not a fan for me and my baby). If you're interested in parenting without training I recommend reading anything by Dr. Sears- The Baby Book is my absolute favorite right now!!!
    Thank you, Mara. I'm glad to hear that yours went away eventually. Today, the latching on has been a little easier so I'm hoping its starting to fade away.
    Marie, I also discussed this topic a little bit in the Chat Thread and many of the Mamas said that they experienced the pain early on as well, but it went away after awhile. I guess its normal.

    Not to start a debate at all, but on the contrary to Mara's suggestion is the book "On Becoming BabyWise" by Gary Ezzo and Robert Bucknam. That book's philosophy and the philosophy of Dr. Sears are extremely opposing and controversial, but its good to have all the viewpoints for you to decide what is best for you and your baby. For me personally, the sleep training and the BabyWise theory are working exceptionally well for us, and I like having her on a schedule because I know what to expect. It makes it easier for me to plan for outings, visitors, etc, since I know when she will be in her awake/alert state.

    Just another option, absolutely no slam on other parenting techniques
    {{ Katelyn }}

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    Katelyn, I have been loading on the lansinoh after every feeding, and I've noticed today that the pain isn't as bad. It makes me cringe and cry, instead of making me pass out lol. So, I thought I'd share that with you, in case it might help. I am going to the next LLL meeting tomorrow (I've been attending since January), and I'm hoping to get more info there. I'm going to have them watch me to check my latch and positioning and all. I'll let you know if I learn more.
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    Marie, I'm so sorry about your latch. I had a lot of pain in the first few days this time around but then it suddenly got better. It was so bad that I was crying and I almost quit. I have no idea what got better. Good for you for continuing to stick with it. I hope your LC is able to help.

    As for the eat/wake/sleep, Mara is right, it is not something that is required at all! I do it with my baby and it is working for us, but I know lots of people who things differently and it works for them. Unfortunately it does carry a bit of a reputation with it as some people pair it with forcing something on the child in an uncaring way. It can be done (and is done in our home) very gently with no crying involved. I personally find that it helps me to gauge a little better what my baby needs might be at any given time. There are a couple books out there, and while none of them I follow exactly, I like "The baby whisperer solves all your problems". But even that author is too dogmatic for me sometimes. Really in the end every family gets to decide what works for them.

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    I don't see how the whole babywise theory is effective. A Babys needs changes day by day when they're small. They need to eat when they need to eat, be held when they need to be held, and no 3 week old is going to self soothe, they'll just give up believing anyone will meet their needs. When the AAP talks of a theory being dangerous to the point of infant death and failure to thrive that throws up huge quantities of red flags for me.

    Does it suck getting 5 hrs straight of sleep one night and then waking every 1.5 the next? Most definitely, but the idea of trying to get him to do something he's not ready to isn't gonna happen.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mist1006 View Post
    I don't see how the whole babywise theory is effective. A Babys needs changes day by day when they're small. They need to eat when they need to eat, be held when they need to be held, and no 3 week old is going to self soothe, they'll just give up believing anyone will meet their needs. When the AAP talks of a theory being dangerous to the point of infant death and failure to thrive that throws up huge quantities of red flags for me.

    Does it suck getting 5 hrs straight of sleep one night and then waking every 1.5 the next? Most definitely, but the idea of trying to get him to do something he's not ready to isn't gonna happen.
    It's true, in the end the babies are going to do what they're going to do! Each of us can try encourage what we'd like to the extent we want to but they are there own little people.

    Since this is a breastfeeding support thread, I'm going to take this opportunity to remind everyone to check their baby for the appropriate amount of wet and dirty diapers, and to periodically monitor their weight with the help of a pediatrician. And discuss your feeding plan with your pediatrician. If anyone wants to discuss sleep further, we should start a new thread for that. So, back to breastfeeding...

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    Quote Originally Posted by mist1006 View Post
    I don't see how the whole babywise theory is effective. A Babys needs changes day by day when they're small. They need to eat when they need to eat, be held when they need to be held, and no 3 week old is going to self soothe, they'll just give up believing anyone will meet their needs. When the AAP talks of a theory being dangerous to the point of infant death and failure to thrive that throws up huge quantities of red flags for me.

    Does it suck getting 5 hrs straight of sleep one night and then waking every 1.5 the next? Most definitely, but the idea of trying to get him to do something he's not ready to isn't gonna happen.
    Just to defend myself, I want to say that I never let my baby go hungry. I wake her every 3-4 hours during the day to feed, then on demand at night. And "self-soothing" is not happening either. She's always in my arms within a minute of her starting to cry, and I know that she is confident in her environment and knows that her needs will be met. I cautiously threw the name of that book out, because I know the controversy behind it, but like I said, I'm not pushing any parenting style on anyone and want everyone to do what works best for them. Its working for us, and I am continuously reassured throughout the day that my baby is healthy, happy, and fabulously content

    OK, back to breastfeeding
    {{ Katelyn }}

    Emersyn Marie, May 29, 2010


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    Since we are back to breastfeeding ........

    I'm not feeding on demand . . . . .but I think I'm moving towards that. My LC recommended a 2 1/2 hour feeding schedule for Gabe at the beginning b/c he was having weight gain issues. So I kept that up during the day - and then just letting him let me know when he's hungry at night. That's been working out . But now he's wanting to eat every two hours!! And he eats his normal amount (I'm guessing b/c of time spent on each breast - actively sucking/swallowing). Could he be going through a growth spurt? I'm just suprised how much he's eating. He eats for 30 minutes and an hour and a half later he'll start getting fussy for more!!

    He weighed 6lbs 14 oz on May 24th. Yesterday he weighed 8lbs 3 oz. With his new eating schedule it wouldn't suprise me if he packs on the lbs this week!! I don't mind his new "2 hour" schedule at all. I just find it amazing that he will get grumpy and let me know he's hungry on that interval during the day - but then sleep 6 hours at night. Don't get me wrong, I'm not complaining.....I just think it's interesting.

    Oh, and does anyone have any advice on what to do about umm...what do you call it...."over supply" in the evenings? I've tried pumping right before bed but I'm having big issues with leakage in the night (even with breast pads). I'm trying to avoid waking up to pump since I'm enjoying the rest at night (especially since Gabe demands a lot of attention during the day). Is that my only option though? Until then I'm sleeping with towels
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    Wow, his weight gain is fabulous!

    The milk should start settling down to your schedule soon. There are 2 things you can do that I can think of meanwhile to control leaking. One is to diaper your breasts before bed and the other is to try Lilpypadz... they cost about $20 and are silicone breast "pads" that adhere to your breasts and stop leaking. They work really well!



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    Amanda, if you're feeding him when he fusses, you're feeding on demand...and didn't someone say that babies tend to have growth spurts at 3 and 6 weeks? Gooodness knows it seems Beni has been doing nothing more than eating and sleeping the last few days!
    Mara & Joel, 2009




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