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    Quote Originally Posted by AlyssaEimers View Post
    Young Adult Coverage | HealthCare.gov

    This .gov website says anyone (even if they are eligible for insurance through their work) under the age of 26 can be on their parents insurance.
    You missed this part: There is one temporary exception: Until 2014, “grandfathered” group plans do not have to offer dependent coverage up to age 26 if a young adult is eligible for group coverage outside their parent’s plan.

    Right now, an adult child who has access to group coverage of their own, whether they take advantage of it or not, doesn't have to be covered by their parents' plan. The information I have from the state of CA says that these young adults are "ineligible" which is why I used that word earlier.

    And it's up to the parents to decide if they want to do this or not. Just because Junior says he wants to quit his insurance plan and sign back up with yours, doesn't mean you have to let him.
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    I wonder how temporary that is?
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    And so it goes.... get ready for the unemployment rate to increase drastically, especially once the forced cuts go into effect and those 1,300 companies have to send their layoff notices. That is a minimum of 65,000 jobs.

    Coal company announces layoffs in response to Obama win - Nov. 9, 2012

    Thousands of banks may disappear - The Term Sheet: Fortune's deals blog Term Sheet
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    Quote Originally Posted by GloriaInTX View Post
    And so it goes.... get ready for the unemployment rate to increase drastically, especially once the forced cuts go into effect and those 1,300 companies have to send their layoff notices. That is a minimum of 65,000 jobs.

    Coal company announces layoffs in response to Obama win - Nov. 9, 2012

    Thousands of banks may disappear - The Term Sheet: Fortune's deals blog Term Sheet
    That coal CEO is a real peice of work. Forces his employees to attend Romney rallies (without pay!), coerces his employees to donate to the Romney campaign, and then lays off people in a fit of temper when his guy doesn't win? Charming.

    Ohio miners say they were forced to attend Romney rally - Los Angeles Times

    Coal Workers Say Murray Energy 'Coerces' Them To Make GOP Donations: 'If You Don
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alissa_Sal View Post
    That coal CEO is a real peice of work. Forces his employees to attend Romney rallies (without pay!), coerces his employees to donate to the Romney campaign, and then lays off people in a fit of temper when his guy doesn't win? Charming.

    Ohio miners say they were forced to attend Romney rally - Los Angeles Times

    Coal Workers Say Murray Energy 'Coerces' Them To Make GOP Donations: 'If You Don
    Sick. This isn't Obama's fault. It is the fault of a state with at-will termination. Being a greedy selfish jerk is not a reason to lay people off.
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    Some of these people are just trying to keep their businesses afloat. You do realize that lots of owners are not reveling in the layoffs? Why would they want to lay off people? Business owners, even greedy ones .. or even especially greedy ones want their business to GROW, hire more, build more, earn more, have more... more more more. Not less. Less people working equals less product to sell. equals less money. Just because someone is a JERK doesn't mean that they don't have business sense. So I do not see Greed or selfishness or being a jerk as a reason to lay people off. It is either a real issue with the particular person, or something changed in their business and they can not keep growing it and maintain it. The other reason would be they are idiots and don't know how to grow a business, but these are established well known businesses that are doing this. It isn't just some flyby night idiot.
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    I like the Papa John's guy - he could either raise the price of his pizzas 15 cents (which he would totally do if, for example, the price of cheese or flour went up - businesses consistently pass operational expense increases on to their customers) OR he could lay people off. I don't know about the rest of you, but I would never notice a 15 cent increase in a pizza price. But you know, his guy didn't win, so he has to threaten layoffs to prove a point.

    Papa John's CEO John Schnatter Says Company Will Reduce Workers' Hours In Response To Obamacare

    Or the guy that claims he is laying people off because of Obamacare, but admits that he laid off people he thought voted for Obama.

    Obamacare Layoffs: Georgia Businessman Claims He Fired Workers Because Obama Won

    I know that Conservatives are trying to frame this like "Look at how Obama is costing people jobs!" but my impression of it is "Look at how some Republicans are throwing a freaking hissy fit and playing with their employees lives to make a point."
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alissa_Sal View Post
    I like the Papa John's guy - he could either raise the price of his pizzas 15 cents (which he would totally do if, for example, the price of cheese or flour went up - businesses consistently pass operational expense increases on to their customers) OR he could lay people off. I don't know about the rest of you, but I would never notice a 15 cent increase in a pizza price. But you know, his guy didn't win, so he has to threaten layoffs to prove a point.

    Papa John's CEO John Schnatter Says Company Will Reduce Workers' Hours In Response To Obamacare

    Or the guy that claims he is laying people off because of Obamacare, but admits that he laid off people he thought voted for Obama.

    Obamacare Layoffs: Georgia Businessman Claims He Fired Workers Because Obama Won

    I know that Conservatives are trying to frame this like "Look at how Obama is costing people jobs!" but my impression of it is "Look at how some Republicans are throwing a freaking hissy fit and playing with their employees lives to make a point."

    I think the prices of everything have went up recently, a lot in most places. I think most business owners understand that if prices get to high people will not buy. We had the BEST pizza place here that closed after 45 years in business recently, they said after 11 price increases in 2 years due to cost rising they just couldnt sell enough to make it anymore. Every time they raised prices 5 cents the actual price increase to them would be 7 or 8 cents, it added up to way to big of a loss.

    Do you not believe that businesses will feel the pain of Obamacare?
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    No I don't. Here, there isn't much change. We still have LOTS of small business. None of my local non chain pizza places have closed or chains. Many businesses are expanding (grocery stores, banks, restaurants...it runs the gamut) despite having had to provide health insurance (unless they are really THAT small and do not have to) since 2007.

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