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    Quote Originally Posted by GloriaInTX View Post
    This was a 15 year old boy who dislocated his finger, and the parents were not allowed to see his records without consent.
    I read the article. I still don't understand why you are using this story to bring up abortion without parental consent. They have nothing to do with each other.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ClairesMommy View Post
    I read the article. I still don't understand why you are using this story to bring up abortion without parental consent. They have nothing to do with each other.
    I may have missed it, but I do not see where she did that. My understanding was that the debate was about if a 12 year old should get to be in charge of their medical decisions. That would range from a sliver, to a broken bone, plastic surgery, or yes an abortion. It is my opinion, that a parent should have access to their child's medical records. For example Susy Q is in a car accident. She needs to have emergency surgery. For that surgery the doctor asks her parents for any past surgeries and any medications she might be taking (Every surgery I have ever had, they ask those questions). The parents should not be able to get that information?

    For the purpose of dealing with abortion or birth control, it seems like it would be reasonable compromise to have a separate sup-section of the medical record that delt with those issues unless there was a complication like an allergy. I do think all parts of the medical records should be open to the parents, but if that is not an option, than at least let them have access to the rest of the medical records.


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    I am confused on why the author of that article included the fact that's NY supports gay marriage because of course that coincides with privacy laws.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AlyssaEimers View Post
    I may have missed it, but I do not see where she did that. My understanding was that the debate was about if a 12 year old should get to be in charge of their medical decisions. That would range from a sliver, to a broken bone, plastic surgery, or yes an abortion. It is my opinion, that a parent should have access to their child's medical records. For example Susy Q is in a car accident. She needs to have emergency surgery. For that surgery the doctor asks her parents for any past surgeries and any medications she might be taking (Every surgery I have ever had, they ask those questions). The parents should not be able to get that information?


    For the purpose of dealing with abortion or birth control, it seems like it would be reasonable compromise to have a separate sup-section of the medical record that delt with those issues unless there was a complication like an allergy. I do think all parts of the medical records should be open to the parents, but if that is not an option, than at least let them have access to the rest of the medical records.


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    Do you think the state of New York has gone overboard in putting 12 year olds in charge of their own medical decisions as a way to bypass parental consent for abortions?
    I still seriously do not know what they have to do with each other. I see it as a veiled way of bringing abortion into a debate that has nothing to do with abortion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ClairesMommy View Post
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    I still seriously do not know what they have to do with each other. I see it as a veiled way of bringing abortion into a debate that has nothing to do with abortion.
    If it was not for abortion or BC, would we care if parents had access to their minor child's medical records? That is the way I would see the two related. If you took out that factor, it would be a non issue. No one would question a parent being notified of a broken arm or being allowed to know about a surgery.

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    The connection to abortion was made in the article that Gloria linked to. They are basically saying why else would NY make this law if not to allow girls to have abortions without parental consent or involvement.

    I am curious as to why NY would reduce the age requiring consent to 12 when federally, under HIPAA, it is 18. Does anyone have any idea what their reasoning is on that?
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    Gloria are you deliberately misrepresenting this article? Where does this article say ONE WORD about the child being "in charge of his medical decisions". I am so completely confused about your intent, between your bringing abortion into a dislocated finger and your claim that a billing mishap is now a pre pubescent making medical decisions this whole debate is a hot mess of agenda.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ClairesMommy View Post
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    I still seriously do not know what they have to do with each other. I see it as a veiled way of bringing abortion into a debate that has nothing to do with abortion.
    The only thing it has to do with it is that is WHY they made this law in the first place. This is a consequence of that law. They would never have made a law that parents can't see a 12 year olds records if they hadn't wanted to do it to bypass parental consent for abortions. That is why I mentioned it. The debate is whether this a good consequence that now parents can't even see their 12 year old child's medical records.
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    They can see their childs medical records. A child just has to consent. Its very simple. Consenting is a one word process. "Yes". See? Easy! I have to do it for my husband to see my records, too. Easy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Potter75 View Post
    Gloria are you deliberately misrepresenting this article? Where does this article say ONE WORD about the child being "in charge of his medical decisions". I am so completely confused about your intent, between your bringing abortion into a dislocated finger and your claim that a billing mishap is now a pre pubescent making medical decisions this whole debate is a hot mess of agenda.
    Thank you. I was starting to think I was losing my marbles and wondering if anyone else was seeing through the pointless posting of the article in order to drag abortion into it yet again. But about the article itself, it just reeks of conservative Christian righteousness and if that's what we're going to start debating, I have no interest.

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