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    Quote Originally Posted by GloriaInTX View Post
    I disagree that Walmart treats their employees any different than other similar retailers.
    I guess you've never seen the documentary, "Walmart: The High Cost of Low Prices," because otherwise you would know that this is not true. You can watch the full movie here:
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    Quote Originally Posted by Spacers View Post
    I guess you've never seen the documentary, "Walmart: The High Cost of Low Prices," because otherwise you would know that this is not true. You can watch the full movie here:
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    So where is the documentary that shows Target or Sears (who I personally worked for that was no different) or Kmart or any other low priced retailer are different? How about McDonalds or Wendys or Taco Bell. All these employers us the exact same practices just no one hates them enough to do a documentary.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GloriaInTX View Post
    I disagree that Walmart treats their employees any different than other similar retailers, and I have other family members that loved working there also, including my niece who was a store manager and retired after 20 years. But that is a different debate.
    Yes, it may be a different debate, but you simply can't ignore factual documentation of their business practices on the grounds of one or several family members' good experiences working for them. Those individual experiences are not even a tiny sliver in the pie that is their business model. And my biggest issues with them don't even have anything to do with how they treat their employees. Their offensive business practices go WAY beyond that.

    I don't see how that would be any different than me ignoring this information about A & F's CEO, or their half-naked catalogues, because I have a great friend from college who worked there for years and loved the company as an employer. The latter is simply not relevant to whether or not they are a business I want to give my money to.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GloriaInTX View Post
    So where is the documentary that shows Target or Sears (who I personally worked for that was no different) or Kmart or any other low priced retailer are different? How about McDonalds or Wendys or Taco Bell. All these employers us the exact same practices just no one hates them enough to do a documentary.
    Where are the facts that all of those retailers use "the exact same practices"? My opinion on Walmart was established before I even saw that documentary. It was based on countless news stories over the years that have cemented my feelings about Walmart. Stories like this one...

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    And like I said, this is just one example of MANY. I hardly believe that the media ONLY shows negative stories about Walmart but ignores those of their competitors, such as Target. That just doesn't make sense.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KimPossible View Post
    You know I don't think his theory is poor business logic actually....I think it can theoretically be effective, well it could have been if his philosophy was never publicized. I agree that you can market to a specific group and be successful, even if it's not the biggest group. I just don't agree with him personally that it means it's okay to alienate people or encourage stigmatiz ation of larger people for the sake of business. Especially kids. How awful. It reinforces all sorts of harmful terrible things
    Obviously a lot of fashion labels and stores do this, but they don't announce it. There are stores that clearly offer nothing or next to nothing in larger sizes, because that's not the clientele they want, that's not how they see their brand. It's creepier when it's teens but it's out there for adults too. I don't like the A&C culture anyway, so this just confirms how I feel about them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by freddieflounder101 View Post
    Obviously a lot of fashion labels and stores do this, but they don't announce it. There are stores that clearly offer nothing or next to nothing in larger sizes, because that's not the clientele they want, that's not how they see their brand. It's creepier when it's teens but it's out there for adults too. I don't like the A&C culture anyway, so this just confirms how I feel about them.
    I don't think i ever realized this before. So when i first read about this the other day i was surprised. I thought to myself "seriously? They dont' carry XL?" I guess its true that i often do not see XXL in some stores. But I had no idea that lots of places do this. Can I ask? What stores?

    I will say this. I only shop at about 4 stores for my clothes. If i found out all 4 of those stores had similar attitudes or philosophies, i dont' know what I would do. I am not a natural clothes shopper and the thought of just going to find some other place to buy my clothes makes me unhappy. it would be difficult for me and turn something i enjoy doing now into something of an unpleasant chore.

    I mean its not really any better if the store leader does it but doesn't announce it, is it?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Potter75 View Post
    It actually made my stomach hurt when I read this. Of course I don't shop there as I'm an adult, but I would never buy their clothing for my kids as they got older. I find his comments disgusting ~ teens are self conscious enough ~ and this is just intentionally classist and hurtful and gross. I would not allow my children to wear clothing which purposely fed into such a mean spirited intention. We will stick to brands which cater to everyone.
    I hear what you are saying.

    I don't know that there are brands that cater to everyone. I think A+F is not very good quality/style wise and costly for what it does provide. I get that there is a market for it. But don't, wouldn't, won't shop there because it's just not very good.

    Might as well go to a boutique and sale shop. When I do go to Macy's, etc. the smalls and mediums are gone. The 2's and 4's are gone (I think they must under buy them, because all the sales racks have are large and xl.) and I do not want to dress like a teenager at 41. So I end up looking forever to find something classy in a shop designed for teens.

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    Yeah, after I wrote that I realized that I probably was going to get called out on it. I shop for my kids at Gap, Old Navy, crewcuts, etc, they pretty much carry all kids sizes, I think? My kids are young yet, though.

    As an adult I am short and need a small size, I honestly (like Kim) don't have a good handle on what the stores that I tend to frequent to carry as far as larger adult sizes. It may well be that they DON'T cater to everyone....but when I wear that brand or that style, it isn't screaming "I wear less than a size 10 and I support that jerks message", you know? In other words, I'm not going to go out and research the opinion of all presidents and CEO's of clothing shops on different weight groups (over or under). However, you can't unring a bell, and now that I know this persons opinion or marketing scheme, I will choose appropriately.

    I agree with you about most department stores, I can't ever find my size there ~ they only have larger sizes. We do have one that is an exception and I go there for that reason. Like Kim I tend to shop at about 4 stores. I also don't enjoy shopping, its a means to an end.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bunnyfufu View Post
    I don't know that there are brands that cater to everyone. I think A+F is not very good quality/style wise and costly for what it does provide. I get that there is a market for it. But don't, wouldn't, won't shop there because it's just not very good.
    When i was a teenager their quality was actually very good, pricey, but not as pricey as it is now. I had shirts that lasted for years and years from there. And my DAD actually liked to shop there too. He liked their men's pants. Their roots were actually not in the 'hot skinny teenager' market originally. There were no racey photos on their bags and walls and nothing said A&F on it either and then it seems like over the course of my teenager hood up through the end of college they changed tremendously.

    Its interesting to see how brands change though. I remember being able to scrounge up money in college and shop out of the JCrew catalog...in College! That wouldn't be the case anymore, they've moved their pricing range up a tier or two and do the wedding thing now and stuff like that.
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    I also shop for most of my stuff at Old Navy, and I do it online because I don't like shopping. It's probably why I don't dress appropriately for my age or my job, but what can you do? I buy the kids stuff and add a bunch of things for me. Occasionally I'll branch out to Gap or Eddie Bauer or Macys, all online.

    J Crew is an interesting example, they generally do not have much that fits my body type. I don't have a flat stomach, I have big boobs, so 90% of their stuff doesn't fit me even when I am at a good weight.
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