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    Default Abortion = Tampering with the Evidence of a Rape?

    New Mexico Bill Would Criminalize Abortions After Rape As 'Tampering With Evidence'

    A Republican lawmaker in New Mexico introduced a bill on Wednesday that would legally require victims of rape to carry their pregnancies to term in order to use the fetus as evidence for a sexual assault trial.

    House Bill 206, introduced by state Rep. Cathrynn Brown (R), would charge a rape victim who ended her pregnancy with a third-degree felony for "tampering with evidence."


    ?Tampering with evidence shall include procuring or facilitating an abortion, or compelling or coercing another to obtain an abortion, of a fetus that is the result of criminal sexual penetration or incest with the intent to destroy evidence of the crime," the bill says.


    Third-degree felonies in New Mexico carry a sentence of up to three years in prison.


    Pat Davis of ProgressNow New Mexico, a progressive nonprofit opposing the bill, called it "blatantly unconstitutional" on Thursday.


    ?The bill turns victims of rape and incest into felons and forces them to become incubators of evidence for the state,? he said. ?According to Republican philosophy, victims who are ?legitimately raped? will now have to carry the fetus to term in order to prove their case.?


    The bill is unlikely to pass, as Democrats have a majority in both chambers of New Mexico's state legislature.


    UPDATE: 12:25 p.m. -- Brown said in a statement Thursday that she introduced the bill with the goal of punishing the person who commits incest or rape and then procures or facilitates an abortion to destroy the evidence of the crime.


    ?New Mexico needs to strengthen its laws to deter sex offenders,? said Brown. ?By adding this law in New Mexico, we can help to protect women across our state.?
    Even if you're pro-life, does this law seem like a good idea to you? Does it help "protect women" to threaten to throw them in jail if they abort their rapist's baby? Other thoughts?
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    I just don't have the words for this. It's so gross. Why is it the victims always become the criminals in rape cases?

    I think a positive pregnancy test is enough evidence. Holy heck.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alissa_Sal View Post
    New Mexico Bill Would Criminalize Abortions After Rape As 'Tampering With Evidence'



    Even if you're pro-life, does this law seem like a good idea to you? Does it help "protect women" to threaten to throw them in jail if they abort their rapist's baby? Other thoughts?

    OMGggggggggggg wth is wrong with ppl! I dont have anything polite to say.

    Makes no sense.....what about yhose who are raped but do not get preg..doesnt this bill suggest they were not raped?? I think I am feeling sensative these days and this lady is full of it. I can not believe ppl this dumb get elected.
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    seriously?

    wtf?!?!?


    You don't need someone to keep a baby to prove rape or incest. It's called the "evidence kit" where they get swabs and crap. This is just insane.

    And what the hell are they going to do after the woman gives birth?

    All this would do is push women NOT to report rape or incest.

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    Yeah, I found this pretty unbelievable too. For goodness sakes, you don't need to actually give birth to a baby to prove that you were pregnant, or even to get DNA from the baby to prove that the rapist is the father. Further though, I don't think that most rape cases actually involve "we don't believe that man X put his penis inside of you" but more "was it consensual?", and the existence of a baby certainly doesn't speak to that (unless you believe, like Todd Akin, that f it were "legitimate rape", your body would "shut that whole thing down" in which case I suppose you would see the baby as evidence that it wasn't truly rape.....)
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    And what happens during the nine months that she's pregnant? Does he just walk free while the "evidence" is in her womb?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alissa_Sal View Post
    Yeah, I found this pretty unbelievable too. For goodness sakes, you don't need to actually give birth to a baby to prove that you were pregnant, or even to get DNA from the baby to prove that the rapist is the father. Further though, I don't think that most rape cases actually involve "we don't believe that man X put his penis inside of you" but more "was it consensual?", and the existence of a baby certainly doesn't speak to that (unless you believe, like Todd Akin, that f it were "legitimate rape", your body would "shut that whole thing down" in which case I suppose you would see the baby as evidence that it wasn't truly rape.....)
    P.s. i looked at your ticker and said o m g look how far along you are.....forgetting that I am almost there too! I think my ticker is a little behind. Ive been too lazy to update it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by myyams View Post
    P.s. i looked at your ticker and said o m g look how far along you are.....forgetting that I am almost there too! I think my ticker is a little behind. Ive been too lazy to update it.
    Yep, we are both getting very close now!!!
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    I am very prolife, but this is WAY over the line. I cannot believe people would even suggest something like this.
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    I am also VERY pro-life, but I also agree that this reasoning is over the top. It does not make sense.

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