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    WTF!!!

    My jaw dropped when I read this one.

    Let's see....if a thief steals my identity and drains my bank account of $1K, is it tampering with evidence if I withdraw the rest of my money to open a new account? (Or continue to the use the same account?)

    If a burglar broke my window to enter my house, is it tampering with evidence to replace the window?

    If I am assaulted, is getting stitches and treatment for my wounds, is it tampering with evidence.

    My ridiculous analogies could go on and on.

    Is there a different sentence for rapists if the victim ends up pregnant?

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    Not sure, but I did read this differently than everyone else. I read it as the rapist would get punished for forcing abortion on their victim. I can see this happening especially in the cases of incest.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rivergallery View Post
    Not sure, but I did read this differently than everyone else. I read it as the rapist would get punished for forcing abortion on their victim. I can see this happening especially in the cases of incest.
    Short of assault, I'm not sure how a rapist can force an abortion on his victim.

    I also don't know why they would say "Tampering with evidence shall include procuring or facilitating an abortion, or compelling or coercing another to obtain an abortion, of a fetus that is the result of criminal sexual penetration or incest with the intent to destroy evidence of the crime," the bill says."

    It's that "OR" that is problematic. If it were only a law against forcing or coercing someone to obtain an abortion, they wouldn't need the first half of that sentence.
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    As it is, the remnants of the pregnancy can be collected in a way that preserves them for DNA evidence if rape or incest has been alleged. This proposal is ridiculous.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Spacers View Post
    As it is, the remnants of the pregnancy can be collected in a way that preserves them for DNA evidence if rape or incest has been alleged. This proposal is ridiculous.
    Goodness, it is not even this......it is so insulting to the mother to have to carry inside of her a product of such evil because the government thinks apparently rape by anyone can not exist without a pregnancy. That is the unsaid bottom line. It is sick. For even women who are generally against abortion, they might get one if they were raped. Some wouldn't, some would. But it is a matter of being forced and then further forced. So very sad.
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    It was a mistake in wording which has been blown way out of proportion. It was intended to make it a crime for a rapist to force his victim to have an abortion.

    A Republican legislator came under fire for her proposed law that, critics said, could lead to felony charges against rape or incest victims seeking an abortion.

    On Wednesday Rep. Cathrynn Brown, R-Carlsbad, introduced House Bill 206, which she said was intended to make it a crime for a rapist to force his pregnant victim to have an abortion.

    Within hours the bill drew national attention for a section that reads:

    "Tampering with evidence shall include procuring or facilitating an abortion, or compelling or coercing another to obtain an abortion, of a fetus that is the result of criminal sexual penetration or incest with the intent to destroy evidence of the crime."

    That would appear to open up rape or incest victims to felony charges, punishable by up to three years in prison, if they obtain an abortion, reports CBS Affiliate KRQE.

    The chairman of New Mexico's Democratic Party called it an "atrocious piece of legislation."

    "I was shocked in reading it," Rep. Gail Chasey , D-Albuquerque," told KRQE correspondent Alex Goldsmith. "As an attorney I started looking at it and thought that's not how we gather evidence in a rape anyway, so it doesn't even make sense logically."

    "I can't judge her intent, but to me it feels like an extension of the war on women," said Rep. Elizabeth Thomson , D-Albuquerque.

    After telling KRQE that critics were simply misreading her bill, Brown later told the station that the language was a mistake made by the bill's drafter, an error she says she missed when reviewing the bill before introducing it.

    "When he fixed some of the tampering language in the bill, somehow it just kind of missed the emphasis that I had hoped I'd made clear in the beginning," Brown told KRQE.

    Brown will introduce a new bill that makes it clear that rape or incest victims could not be charged with tampering with evidence for getting an abortion.

    Another abortion-related proposal has been raised in Santa Fe this session. Rep. Nora Espinoza , R-Roswell, has introduced the "Woman's Right to Know Act" that would require doctors performing an abortion to first show the woman an ultrasound and have her hear a fetus' heartbeat.
    Rape-abortion bill causes uproar in N.M. - CBS News
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    Quote Originally Posted by myyams View Post
    Goodness, it is not even this......it is so insulting to the mother to have to carry inside of her a product of such evil because the government thinks apparently rape by anyone can not exist without a pregnancy. That is the unsaid bottom line. It is sick. For even women who are generally against abortion, they might get one if they were raped. Some wouldn't, some would. But it is a matter of being forced and then further forced. So very sad.
    So we murder someone because we were raped?
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    If you want to term it that way go ahead. It's a legal procedure and we have every right to obtain a safe one thank God.

    Not ashamed to say I probably would if I was raped. Can't say for sure 100% until you are there of course but I can picture it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alissa_Sal View Post
    Short of assault, I'm not sure how a rapist can force an abortion on his victim.
    Father rapes daughter. Father takes daughter to get an abortion to hide the fact that daughter is pregnant. Daughter is scared of Father so goes along with abortion.
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