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    Quote Originally Posted by Rivergallery View Post
    So we murder someone because we were raped?
    We exert our very legal options.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alissa_Sal View Post
    Short of assault, I'm not sure how a rapist can force an abortion on his victim.

    I also don't know why they would say "Tampering with evidence shall include procuring or facilitating an abortion, or compelling or coercing another to obtain an abortion, of a fetus that is the result of criminal sexual penetration or incest with the intent to destroy evidence of the crime," the bill says."

    It's that "OR" that is problematic. If it were only a law against forcing or coercing someone to obtain an abortion, they wouldn't need the first half of that sentence.
    I agree with this. Something is fishy to me, and I sense some backpedalling and cover up of original intent. My suspicious nature doesn't but the whole "my PR dude who wrote the statement effed up and so now we're writing it the way we intended from the get-go".

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    Quote Originally Posted by myyams View Post
    Goodness, it is not even this......it is so insulting to the mother to have to carry inside of her a product of such evil because the government thinks apparently rape by anyone can not exist without a pregnancy. That is the unsaid bottom line. It is sick. For even women who are generally against abortion, they might get one if they were raped. Some wouldn't, some would. But it is a matter of being forced and then further forced. So very sad.
    I think what Stacey means by 'remnants of pregnancy' is the tissue/blood etc. that is produced from abortion - so the 'remnants' would have enought DNA to prove who impregnanted the woman.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ClairesMommy View Post
    I agree with this. Something is fishy to me, and I sense some backpedalling and cover up of original intent. My suspicious nature doesn't but the whole "my PR dude who wrote the statement effed up and so now we're writing it the way we intended from the get-go".
    I kind of agree with you, not enough to say for sure this is what is happening, but I feel like something could be fishy. I base this on how the media itself reported it. They intended for us to perceive it in a certain way when they wrote:

    A Republican lawmaker in New Mexico introduced a bill on Wednesday that would legally require victims of rape to carry their pregnancies to term in order to use the fetus as evidence for a sexual assault trial.

    House Bill 206, introduced by state Rep. Cathrynn Brown (R), would charge a rape victim who ended her pregnancy with a third-degree felony for "tampering with evidence."

    I can't honestly say for sure as I can't judge the intention behind either the reporting or the lawmaker. Is this woman very anti abortion? So I at least someone somewhere wanted us to react the way we reacted.

    ETA, plus she herself is an attorney and probably good at manipulating word placement and use. So having an error that bad is..fishy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ClairesMommy View Post
    I think what Stacey means by 'remnants of pregnancy' is the tissue/blood etc. that is produced from abortion - so the 'remnants' would have enought DNA to prove who impregnanted the woman.
    Yes I know what she meant. The whole issue is so disturbing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by myyams View Post
    We exert our very legal options.
    So legal = morally right... hummm
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rivergallery View Post
    So legal = morally right... hummm
    But in America we are allowed to have our own moral compasses. We are allowed to decide what is right and wrong and act within the current legal climate.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rivergallery View Post
    So legal = morally right... hummm
    I did not detect one iota of moral right in what she was saying, only the legal right. You are the one bringing the morals into the topic. This is a legal challenge, not a moral one.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GloriaInTX View Post
    Father rapes daughter. Father takes daughter to get an abortion to hide the fact that daughter is pregnant. Daughter is scared of Father so goes along with abortion.
    I would hope that is already illegal and we would not need a new law to be able to arrest someone for this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AlyssaEimers View Post
    I would hope that is already illegal and we would not need a new law to be able to arrest someone for this.
    The rape is already illegal, I'm not so sure about the forced abortion.
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