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    I do not see anything to support that he was only saying that conservatives could not win an election in NY. I think that is back tracking to try to cover up what he said.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AlyssaEimers View Post
    Do you have another article that says exactly what he said? This quote from the OP “Who are they? Right to life, pro-assault weapons, anti-gay — if that’s who they are, they have no place in the state of New York because that’s not who New Yorkers are.” Seems to be saying something different than what you guys are talking about. Is that a miss quote?
    Bonita, from the article in the OP -

    Cuomo said Friday that members of the GOP with “extreme” views are creating an identity crisis for their party and represent a bigger worry than Democrats such as himself.
    Their problem isn’t me and the Democrats; their problem is themselves,” the governor said on Albany’s The Capitol Pressroom radio show.
    “Who are they? Right to life, pro-assault weapons, anti-gay — if that’s who they are, they have no place in the state of New York because that’s not who New Yorkers are.”
    I assumed when he was talking about "problem" he meant "problem getting elected to office."

    I don't doubt that the GOP is trying to use that quote to make political hay - that's politics as usual. That doesn't mean much to me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alissa_Sal View Post
    Bonita, from the article in the OP -



    I assumed when he was talking about "problem" he meant "problem getting elected to office."

    I don't doubt that the GOP is trying to use that quote to make political hay - that's politics as usual. That doesn't mean much to me.
    What I was saying is that people are upset and that there are going to be repercussions for saying such an offensive statement.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AlyssaEimers View Post
    What I was saying is that people are upset and that there are going to be repercussions for saying such an offensive statement.
    I think it people in NY are seriously going to be upset & offended about this, then they should probably listen to the entire interview instead of taking the Post's summary on it. The Post is like a half step up from the National Enquirer on the truthful media scale.

    Quote Originally Posted by AlyssaEimers View Post
    Do you have another article that says exactly what he said? This quote from the OP “Who are they? Right to life, pro-assault weapons, anti-gay — if that’s who they are, they have no place in the state of New York because that’s not who New Yorkers are.” Seems to be saying something different than what you guys are talking about. Is that a miss quote?
    You seem to be taking him literally word for word, exactly. The rest of us are acknowledging that this was not a speech, not a prepared statement, but an off-the-cuff interview. We are reading "between the lines," as they say, to what we believe he meant in totality, and not just the few words that came out of his mouth that one minute. He said a lot more in the interview to support our POV than to support yours. You can read the relevant part of the transcript here:
    http://www.governor.ny.gov/01192014statement
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    And I'm saying that I don't get why it's offensive to say that extremists that don't appeal to the majority have a problem getting elected.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Spacers View Post
    I think it people in NY are seriously going to be upset & offended about this, then they should probably listen to the entire interview instead of taking the Post's summary on it. The Post is like a half step up from the National Enquirer on the truthful media scale.


    You seem to be taking him literally word for word, exactly. The rest of us are acknowledging that this was not a speech, not a prepared statement, but an off-the-cuff interview. We are reading "between the lines," as they say, to what we believe he meant in totality, and not just the few words that came out of his mouth that one minute. He said a lot more in the interview to support our POV than to support yours. You can read the relevant part of the transcript here:
    Open Letter to the Editor Regarding New York Post Story "Gov. Cuomo to conservatives: Leave NY" published on Saturday, January 18th, 2014. | Governor Andrew M. Cuomo
    When a public figure speaks, often what they say is taken without the entire conversation. With the whole Chick Fil A debate, the owner was asked a question and he answered. The whole conversation was not what people focused on. What they found offensive is what people focused on.

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    And I'm saying that I don't get why it's offensive to say that extremists that don't appeal to the majority have a problem getting elected.
    Where are you reading exactly that says that he was only referring to getting elected? If he had said, conservatives would have a hard time getting elected in New York State that would be different. However, that is not what he said. I also do not believe it is what he meant.

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    See next post.
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    NY Gov. Andrew Cuomo Tells Conservatives They Aren't Welcome - YouTube

    I just listened to the video of the conversation. He was not talking about getting elected and people have every right to be offended.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AlyssaEimers View Post
    Where are you reading exactly that says that he was only referring to getting elected? If he had said, conservatives would have a hard time getting elected in New York State that would be different. However, that is not what he said. I also do not believe it is what he meant.
    I'm looking at the entire conversation as reported by the paper and trying to put it into context. He's talking about how extremists are not "who the people of NY are" and how their "problem" is not the Democrats, their problem is themselves. Now, what does he mean exactly by "problem." What is the problem, exactly? Since he is talking about how these people do not represent the people of NY, I assume that the "problem" he is referring to is the "problem" of not being able to get elected. Make sense?
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    Darnit, I can't watch YouTube on this computer. I'll see if I can find a transcript.
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