Yeah, I think that that is actually, I don’t think that that is right Susan. I think it is a very important point, but I don’t think it is that I’m less of a Democrat, I think what you are seeing is, you have a schism within the Republican party. You have the Republican party searching for identity; they are searching to define their soul. That is what is going on. It is the Republican party that is it a moderate party or is it a conservative party? That is what they are trying to figure out and it is very interesting because it is a mirror of what is going on in Washington, right? The gridlock in Washington is less about Democrats and Republicans. It is more about extreme Republicans versus moderate Republicans. And a moderate Republican in Washington can’t figure out how to deal with the extreme Republicans. And the moderate Republicans are affair of the extreme conservative republicans in Washington in my opinion.
You’ve seen that play out in New York, their SAFE Act – the Republican-party candidates are running against the SAFE Act. It was voted for by moderate Republicans who run the senate. Their problem is not me and Democrats, their problem is themselves. Who are they? Are they these extreme conservatives, who are right-to-life, pro-assault-weapon, anti-gay, is that who they are? Because if that is who they are, and if they are the extreme conservatives, they have no place in the state of New York. Because that is not who New Yorkers are.
Moderate Republicans like in the senate right now and control the senate — moderate republicans have a place in this state. George Pataki was governor of this state as a moderate Republican. But not as what you are hearing from them on the far right not this clash that you are getting from the quote unquote power brokers of the party now: ”We are right-to-life, we are pro-assault-weapon or anti-gay” . . . Well that was planned anyway, I think he did that in reaction to the meets we were having. You know moderate Republicans, I work with – moderate Republicans passed my agenda, for the past three years. They want to criticize my record? My record was passed by the moderate Republicans, so they are criticizing themselves and this really isn’t about me Susan. This is: Who are they? And who is going to win between the conservative Republicans, the extremely conservative Republicans and the moderately conservative Republicans. And literally look at the issues that they pick, are we right-to-life or are we pro-choice? Well if you are right to life, that is your opinion and that’s your religious belief, that is fine but that is not the opinion of this state, which 70% are pro-choice in this state.
“Well we are anti-gun control”, that is fine. 70 percent of this state wants intelligent gun control.
“We don’t agree with gay marriage, we are anti-gay”, that is fine but 70 percent of this. state about, is now pro-gay-marriage so figure out who you are and figure out if you are of a extreme conservative philosophy and if you can survive in this state. And the answer is no.
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Everything in that full quote goes to exactly how I interpretted it, that he is talking about who can get elected in that state. the whole exerpt is all about who is in Washington, and what platforms they are running on, which is exactly how I assumed he meant it, that you can't run on an extreme Conservative in NY and get elected.
Also, he says that's exactly what he was talking about:
Open Letter to the Editor Regarding New York Post Story "Gov. Cuomo to conservatives: Leave NY" published on Saturday, January 18th, 2014. | Governor Andrew M. Cuomo
Then it lists the transcript that you posted. So yeah, still not seeing the problem. I just saw this after I went looking for the transcript, and it just confirmed what I already thought he meant. It seemed (and still seems) pretty clear to me from the context that this is what he meant.The New York Post distorted Governor Cuomo’s words yesterday, saying that the Governor said "conservatives should leave New York." The Governor did not say that, nor does he believe that.
If you read the transcript (below), it is clear that the Governor was making the observation that an extreme right candidate cannot win statewide because this is a politically moderate state (either moderate Republican or moderate Democratic).
In the same response, the Governor went on to say "it is fine" to be anti-gun control, and anti-choice” – as he respects both positions.
The Post can allow any person they want to publish in their paper but if they are to retain any credibility they cannot be entirely reckless with facts and the truth.
Yes, he's talking about politics, not population.
And you can't compare Republicans & Democrats to black people & white people. Politics are opinions, skin color is not.
If I lived in Texas, and the governor said something about how there wasn't a place there for anti-gun Democrats, I would tend to agree. I would know I was in in the minority and I wouldn't expect to be represented politically. My husband knows HE is not represented politically in NY, that's just how it is. (He's a Libertarian, if anything.)
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It does not matter at all to me what he says he meant after the fact to try to stem the back lash. He would have said anything at that point.
I was just on the phone with my mom who has lived in NY all her life. I asked her if she was offended and she said very. I asked her if the people in her area were offended and she said yes. She said though, that it will not matter because he is elected by NYC and that what up state NY thinks will not matter.
Can any of you tell me that if you were a conservative that you truly would not have been offended? I mean truly? I don't mean sit in a corner and cry all day, but after hearing it you would not have though "Well he is a jerk". I can also tell you from being born and raised in NY that the idea truly is there. That Coumo and NYCers as a whole (obviously not everyone) do not believe anyone from outside of NYC or anyone not liberal does not belong, and that at least the corner of NY that I am from (again, a majority not all) wishes that NYC would break off into the ocean. There is a lot of history of strife and bitterness there. Statements like this just add fuel to the fire. Maybe it did not come out like he meant it, but it still came across as offensive and it is still going to cause back lash. Not that it will matter on this issue any more than any other issue that is voted on State wide because NYC can easily out vote the rest of the State.