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    An 18-year-old man who was seen putting graffiti on private property in Miami Beach died after he ran from police and an officer used a Taser on him, police said. Thiago Souza talked about what happened to his friend Israel Hernandez. Sister Offir Hernandez and Hernandez family attorney Todd McPharlin discussed the incident.

    An 18-year-old man who was seen putting graffiti on private property in Miami Beach died after he ran from police and an officer used a Taser on him, police said.

    Miami Beach Police officers saw Israel Hernandez vandalizing private property with graffiti at 71st Street and Collins Avenue at 5:14 a.m. on Tuesday, Police Chief Raymond Martinez said in a statement Wednesday.

    Thiago Souza said that he and another friend were keeping a lookout as their friend Hernandez used gold spray paint to graffiti an old storefront.

    ?I told him. I was like, 'Yo, stop,?? Souza said.

    Police pulled up. That's when Hernandez tried using his skateboard to get away, but ran instead, Souza said.

    During the ensuing chase Hernandez ran into and out of a building, and went over a fence before he crashed down hard on the hood of a car, an officer wrote in an offense incident report. Hernandez landed on his feet before losing his balance and falling on his chest, and then ran northbound on Harding Avenue, the report said.

    Officers came face to face with Hernandez at 71st Street and Harding Avenue, where he ignored their commands to stop, Martinez said. An officer used a Taser on Hernandez and he was taken into custody, but he then showed signs of medical duress, Martinez said.

    Miami Beach Fire Rescue took Hernandez to Mount Sinai Medical Center, where he was pronounced dead, Martinez said.

    ?The City of Miami Beach would like to extend their condolences to the family of Israel Hernandez,? the statement said.

    Souza said police went too far.

    "You don't have to use excessive force, it's not like he killed no one," he said.

    At the Hernandez family's Miami Beach home Wednesday, his loved ones grieved, as the teen's drawings and paintings hung on the walls.

    "He was a boy that could dream more than anybody could think," said his older sister, Offir Hernandez.

    As a Miami Beach Senior High School student, she said her brother earned several honors, including Congressional recognition for his artistic achievements.

    The family's attorney, Todd McPharlin, said his team is beginning an investigation into the circumstances surrounding Hernandez's death.

    "I haven't seen something turn into a young man's death being caused by, or at least starting from something so benign," McPharlin said.

    The cause of death has not been determined by the Medical Examiner?s Office, and autopsy and toxicology results are also pending, Martinez said.

    Police continue to investigate.
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    I do not know the extent of the graffiti but if it was under $200, it was a misdemeanor. When the police arrived, he ran. At the time he was confronted, he was out of places to run.

    Yes, he was in the wrong for running, but does the crime of graffiti warrant being tased which resulted in his death?

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    The reason he was running from the police is irrelevant, IMO. Once he was running from the police that needed to be dealt with. I am curious why he died from the tazing. Is that common? If it came out that the police officer tazed him in excess, then that would need to be addressed as well.
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    He shouldnt have ran. I am very sad for this boy, and his family. Tazing is not considered deadly force.
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    I agree with what has been said. Once he ran he needed to be chased, and I would much rather a Taser than a gun. It is very rare for someone to die from being tazed, and is usually due to a heart defect, or medications they are on. I am not seeing where it says he had nowhere else to go?

    Anyways, here when you take the Taser course, someone always gets tasered as a demonstration. That is how safe it is, that the cops will tase there own just to show the effects.
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    Based on the story presented, I don't think excessive force was used. He ran away from the cops after committing a crime. Stupid move. I feel bad he died but as pp have said it's not typical to die after that.
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    I have a friend whose husband is RCMP (Royal Canadian Mounted Police aka Mounties) and they have to be tasered and pepper sprayed before they are issued either.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mom2robbie View Post
    I have a friend whose husband is RCMP (Royal Canadian Mounted Police aka Mounties) and they have to be tasered and pepper sprayed before they are issued either.
    same is true for police here.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jessica80 View Post
    Based on the story presented, I don't think excessive force was used. He ran away from the cops after committing a crime. Stupid move. I feel bad he died but as pp have said it's not typical to die after that.
    I agree. He ran, he was told to stop, he didn't, and a taser is non-lethal force in most cases. I feel terrible for him and his family, but I don't think the police are at fault.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rivergallery View Post
    same is true for police here.
    Here as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by freddieflounder101 View Post
    I agree. He ran, he was told to stop, he didn't, and a taser is non-lethal force in most cases. I feel terrible for him and his family, but I don't think the police are at fault.
    I agree. Very very sad, but I don't think that the police are at fault unless there is evidence that they somehow tazed him "too much" (I'm not sure if that is even possible? Do tazers have different settings?)
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