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    Oh sorry, I thought she meant that they just think it's wrong. That doesn't necessarily equate to wanting to bully or stop equal rights. I know a lot of people that are anti abortion and pro choice..kwim? Not that they are proactive in preventing rights. Then I would say NO.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jessica80 View Post
    Thinking it's okay to bully LGBT and using the background that it's pro gay agenda is bull. Whether you think it's natural or a choice (I still can't grasp that at all..have no idea why someone would want to choose a more difficult path but whatever) we all deserve the same respect and the same safety.
    NO ONE is saying that its ok to bully LGBT or anyone else.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alissa_Sal View Post
    I am.

    Denying people equal rights and protections under the law because you disapprove of their "lifestyle" is no different than yelling at them or beating them up because you disapprove of them; except that it is even more extreme. It IS bullying, and I don't believe that bullies have a place on an anti-bullying task force.
    I am not denying anyone equal protection under the law. Everyone has the equal right to get married. Marriage is between a man and a woman. As far as legal benefits I am not the one who tied legal benefits to marriage, and I don't think they should have anything to do with each other. So how am I a bully now?
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    I think it's great how anyone who believes different than you is labeled a bully. But it goes both ways. Kids are also bullied just because they believe that being gay is choice, but somehow that is ok because they deserve it right?
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    Quote Originally Posted by GloriaInTX View Post
    I am not denying anyone equal protection under the law. Everyone has the equal right to get married. Marriage is between a man and a woman. As far as legal benefits I am not the one who tied legal benefits to marriage, and I don't think they should have anything to do with each other. So how am I a bully now?
    This is such a cruel argument that invalidates the lives of LGBT people and their families. You and I had the right to marry the person we actually love and wanted to build our families with. LGBT people have that same right....as long as they are okay with marrying someone they don't love romantically? That is BS!!!!! Talk about cheapening marriage!

    Whether you like it or not, legal rights and protections ARE tied to marriage. And that is ALL you are denying them when you actively seek to deny them the right to a civil marriage (that is, a marriage recognized by the government.) You can't stop them from living together, building families together, even having marriage ceremonies within churches/religious organizations that perform gay marriage rites. The ONLY thing you can keep them from is equal rights under the law, and that is what every anti-gay marriage activist is doing. It's totally bullying!

    And yes, if you don't think that a group of people deserves equal rights and protections under the law, I don't believe you are a good candidate to help find ways to support them with an anti-bullying task force. I'd say you are a big part of the problem.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GloriaInTX View Post
    I think it's great how anyone who believes different than you is labeled a bully. But it goes both ways. Kids are also bullied just because they believe that being gay is choice, but somehow that is ok because they deserve it right?
    Bullying is never right.

    Your fist ends where my face begins.

    Christian kids are allowed to believe that gay people are sinners who do not deserve equal rights. Others are not allowed to yell at them, spit on them, beat them up, or try to deny them equal rights over it. They ARE allowed to disagree with them, and even think that their anti-gay position reflects poorly on them as human beings, as long as they don't mistreat them or try to make them second class citizens.

    Gay kids are allowed to be gay. Others are not allowed to yell at them, spit on them, beat them up, or try to deny them equal rights over it. They ARE allowed to disagree with them, and even think that their homosexuality reflects poorly on them as human beings, as long as they don't mistreat them or try to make them second class citizens.

    People who cross those lines are bullies. It works both ways.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alissa_Sal View Post
    And yes, if you don't think that a group of people deserves equal rights and protections under the law, I don't believe you are a good candidate to help find ways to support them with an anti-bullying task force. I'd say you are a big part of the problem.
    Of course you just proved my point that only LGBT deserve protection from bullying everyone else can just fend for themselves. Isn't the opposite true too? Who is going to be looking out for the Christian kid on that task force when everyone thinks he deserves to be bullied?
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    Quote Originally Posted by GloriaInTX View Post
    Of course you just proved my point that only LGBT deserve protection from bullying everyone else can just fend for themselves. Isn't the opposite true too? Who is going to be looking out for the Christian kid on that task force when everyone thinks he deserves to be bullied?
    When have I said that only LGBT kids deserve protection or that it is okay to bully Christian kids? Please quote me, as I do not remember ever saying anything like that.

    I think the only people who belong on a task force for anti-bullying are people who are prepared to make a safe and welcoming environment for all kids. I think I've said that repeatedly, as a matter of fact.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alissa_Sal View Post
    I think the only people who belong on a task force for anti-bullying are people who are prepared to make a safe and welcoming environment for all kids. I think I've said that repeatedly, as a matter of fact.
    Yes but then you turn around and say that somehow a Christian isn't prepared to provide a welcoming environment for gay kids, but the person who believes that Christians are bigots is able to provide a welcoming environment for Christian kids. Its hypocritical.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GloriaInTX View Post
    Yes but then you turn around and say that somehow a Christian isn't prepared to provide a welcoming environment for gay kids, but the person who believes that Christians are bigots is able to provide a welcoming environment for Christian kids. Its hypocritical.
    I didn't say a Christian isn't prepared to provide a welcoming environment for gay kids. As I said before, there are tons of Christians that I personally know that I would trust implicitly to provide a welcoming environment for all kids, which should be the point.

    What I said is, if you don't believe a group of people is worthy of equal rights and respect, I don't trust you to provide a welcoming environment for them.

    If it was a person who believed that the Christian religion should be outlawed or that Christians shouldn't be able to practice their religion or something like that, I would also not trust them to be on an anti-bullying task force.
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