What happened in Ireland is disgusting. If she had been able to get to NI for the abortion her life could've been saved.
**slaps head** I should have remembered that Ireland & Northern Ireland aren't the same. But the original article I read said Ireland was in the UK so I'm not totally to blame for the mistake.
Elective abortion should be no different than any other OB/GYN procedure and no government entity should ever be involved in the decision. Period. Not the state, not the federal level. No one should have anything to say about any woman's medical care except her and her doctor, and her partner if she wants to involve him. And certainly not you or me. So yes, Lillie, I would be happy to take it away from the federal government, but it also shouldn't be something any state has the right to decide, either. Only each individual pregnant woman has the right to make that decision.
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Again, not debating abortion. Not going to change my opinion, not going to change yours, not going to do anything except repeat the exact same things.
However, my point *is* that if we had a Republican Federal Government, there would be a huge number of people who would be willing to secede from the United States if the federal abortion law said that elective abortions were illegal. Because that is *not* something the constitution granted them the right to decide, everyone should be appalled that they are the ones making that decision. This time it was your opinion about it that carried the day; how are you going to handle it when the tide turns? Or what happens if President Obama decides this is something he changes his mind about? And tries to get rid of that right? Tries to make it illegal to get an abortion?
I would not want my state to secede from the union over abortion. I love this country, and would want to remain part of it to be able to fight to try to change the law back because I believe that is the right thing to do. I am not of the mindset that "as long as I have my civil rights, I don't care what other people have to go through in their area."
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Having said that, no I do not think that abortion is the same as killing a born baby. Again, if a mother does not want to or is unable to care for a born baby, the state can take over care of the baby. This is simply not true for a fetus prior to the point of viability. It's not like the mom can say "I don't want this child" and then the state has some super lab where the baby can live in a test tube until they are ready to be born. If we DID have that technology, it would open up a whole new can of worms about the ethics of keeping millions of unborn children alive only to have them put into state care, but we don't have that technology so the point is moot. The two just can't be compared in my mind.
Oregon and Washington are way liberal, almost always going blue. So they are not "throwing a tantrum" or any such thing. I think those two states especially would be fed up with the laws regarding hemp and marijuana especially, among others.