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    Not sure what is so offensive about her article. I think modesty is wonderful. And each society is different I totally agree.. what is modest here would not be the same in rural africa, nor the middle east. I think chastity and modesty are among some of the more laudable traits.
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    I'm not talking shorts and tank tops, and I'm not talking about kids who outgrew their bathing suits. I'm talking about clothing that is intentionally skimpy. Shorts so short on all sides that butt cheeks and Brazilian wax jobs (or the lack of....) were clearly visible. On both sexes. Boobs in push-up bras with tops cropped so high and unbuttoned so low that their bras were visible at both ends. On girls who told Tiven they were 12. Walking around at the fair. I don't accept any reason to wear stuff like that *except* attention. A bikini at the beach would have covered the same amount of skin, and that would have been an appropriate place to dress that way. I have nothing against the human body, I've shared labor pics where my boobs are floating freely in the birth pool, because labor is a very appropriate time to be unclothed. I've sunbathed nude, in places where it was allowed and, therefore, appropriate, but you won't find me joining The Naked Guys in the Castro plaza. I've played strip poker with good friends in the privacy of one of our homes. But in general and in public, I think private parts need to stay private on both sexes. Actually, I'd rather see someone in public buck naked than so skimpily dressed that nothing is left to the imagination. Go all the way, or go home & put on some real clothes.
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    Really? See, I'd put generosity or compassion or work ethic or like a hundred things above the mere ability to wear a baggy dress.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rivergallery View Post
    Not sure what is so offensive about her article. I think modesty is wonderful. And each society is different I totally agree.. what is modest here would not be the same in rural africa, nor the middle east. I think chastity and modesty are among some of the more laudable traits.
    Modesty is lovely. I think modesty is admirable and nice. But I don't think it's fair to think that girls shouldn't wear shorts & tank tops because of the effect on boys and how it makes them make wrong choices. It takes all the responsibility off of the boys.

    I also think you can be modest and still wear shorts or a nice light summer dress, or any variety of things.

    I also think you can be covered up and look obscene. The tight pants I see on some people....oh MY.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Potter75 View Post
    Really? See, I'd put generosity or compassion or work ethic or like a hundred things above the mere ability to wear a baggy dress.
    Was I rating them above generosity? or compassion or work ethic? I am saying they are not negative traits.
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    Quote Originally Posted by freddieflounder101 View Post
    Modesty is lovely. I think modesty is admirable and nice. But I don't think it's fair to think that girls shouldn't wear shorts & tank tops because of the effect on boys and how it makes them make wrong choices. It takes all the responsibility off of the boys.

    I also think you can be modest and still wear shorts or a nice light summer dress, or any variety of things.

    I also think you can be covered up and look obscene. The tight pants I see on some people....oh MY.
    1- Life isn't fair.
    2- For those in more conservative Christian mindset, we are not to cause our brother to stumble.. whether that is handing an alcoholic a drink or flaunting sexuality in front of someone... etc.
    3- Everyone is responsible for themselves.. but to allow someone to push something onto you that you struggle with, and say just don't do it or don't think about it isn't right either.. we need to have compassion for each other....
    Is it only the druggies fault they are addicted to drugs? Or should those family members and friends offering them drugs stop? Everyone is responsible for their own actions but we shouldn't make it harder on each other either.
    4- I do agree you can be "covered up" and immodest.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rivergallery View Post
    Was I rating them above generosity? or compassion or work ethic? I am saying they are not negative traits.
    Well, you actually said they were "some of the more laudable traits". Meaning more laudable than others. And I put baggy dresses really low on my list of truly laudable traits- that mindset is hard for me to relate to. I also know and expect men who are honorable and raised to have self control and immense respect and regard for women so we don't have to hide ourselves away to prevent them from their sinful uncontrollable selves.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rivergallery View Post
    2- For those in more conservative Christian mindset, we are not to cause our brother to stumble.. whether that is handing an alcoholic a drink or flaunting sexuality in front of someone... etc.
    3- Everyone is responsible for themselves.. but to allow someone to push something onto you that you struggle with, and say just don't do it or don't think about it isn't right either.. we need to have compassion for each other....
    But if I wear summer clothes I'm not pushing anything onto anyone. Same for a teenage girl in shorts.
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    My body is not a drug and men are not all addicts. That's a downright creepy analogy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Potter75 View Post
    Well, you actually said they were "some of the more laudable traits". Meaning more laudable than others. And I put baggy dresses really low on my list of truly laudable traits- that mindset is hard for me to relate to. I also know and expect men who are honorable and raised to have self control and immense respect and regard for women so we don't have to hide ourselves away to prevent them from their sinful uncontrollable selves.
    They aren't an unlaudable trait are they Potter?... seriously!
    And don't you think this boys parents especially his father was trying to teach him self control and respect and regard for women?
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