Baby at final exam

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Baby at final exam

According to this video, mom brought baby because of timing issues of naps/breastfeeding and was turned away which she feels is violation of breastfeeding laws:

Mom: College won

However, according to this article she just didn't have a caregiver:

Mom turned away from taking college exam over baby | www.wftv.com

Thoughts on situation? If it was due to breastfeeding should they accommodate with a private room and a separate aide/proctor?

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I don't think it's reasonable to expect a college to let you nurse while taking an exam or to expect them to set up a separate situation for you. Having a baby in the class is distracting to others taking exams, and the school shouldn't have to deal with this....in this case I say it's the mother's issue to work it out.

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"Jessica80" wrote:

According to this video, mom brought baby because of timing issues of naps/breastfeeding and was turned away which she feels is violation of breastfeeding laws:

Mom: College won

However, according to this article she just didn't have a caregiver:

Mom turned away from taking college exam over baby | www.wftv.com

Thoughts on situation? If it was due to breastfeeding should they accommodate with a private room and a separate aide/proctor?

LOL this is ridiculous. No she should not have to be accommodated just because she is a nursing mom. And she is hard to take seriously because they even say in the first video that she brought the baby because her husband wasn't available. So.....she can leave the baby but she just didn't find a sitter. Welcome to the world of parent hood.

I breastfed all my kids, i'm pretty pro-breastfeeding and for making reasonable accommodations for breastfeeding mothers, but i don't think nursing is some free pass to tote your baby around to all sorts of inappropriate places for children to be. An exam? Not appropriate.

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I think this is going too far. It is not reasonable to expect other students to concentrate on taking a test with a baby in the room making noises, or for the school to have to provide a separate room and monitor just because she didn't want to get a babysitter. It is not unreasonable to expect her to be away from her baby for a couple of hours for an exam, it would be almost impossible to take a test and breastfeed at the same time anyway. I just don't think it is reasonable to ask for breastfeeding accommodation for a few hours.

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I'm in agreement with all that has been said. I totally think she didn't want to pay for a sitter and came up with the breastfeeding thing because she had the document for their state law with her it sounds like as if she was prepared for a fight.

I am pro bf'ing wherever you would like for the most part but a baby in an exam IS distracting and I don't think the school should have to pay for you to have another proctor because you don't want to hire a sitter.

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I can't see the video and there's no transcript up yet, but I'm pretty sure ITA with the others. I'm pretty sure that I could easily & happily breastfeed while taking an exam, but with the slurping & burping & baby popping off to smile at anyone in close proximity, it would definitely be distracting to others. The only accomodation the college should have been expected to make for her, and only if she had requested it in advance, would be a long-enough break to pump, and a private place to do it, and that's only if the exam lasted more than two hours because most women can easily go 2 - 2.5 hours between pumping sessions. It's not the college's responsibility to accomodate her child.

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"Spacers" wrote:

I can't see the video and there's no transcript up yet, but I'm pretty sure ITA with the others. I'm pretty sure that I could easily & happily breastfeed while taking an exam, but with the slurping & burping & baby popping off to smile at anyone in close proximity, it would definitely be distracting to others. The only accomodation the college should have been expected to make for her, and only if she had requested it in advance, would be a long-enough break to pump, and a private place to do it, and that's only if the exam lasted more than two hours because most women can easily go 2 - 2.5 hours between pumping sessions. It's not the college's responsibility to accomodate her child.

Honestly I don't think you can let someone leave an exam. And what are you going to do, have someone watch her nurse?

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I am very pro- breastfeeding, and I really wanted to come up with a good reason for this woman to be in the right. But I just cant do it. The school was absolutely correct in banning the baby.

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How long would the exam be that you would need to pump in between? My college exams were all at max 2 hours. If I had been nursing then I could have pumped before or after. I pumped every 4 hours while working. Why would she need to leave? I also don't think that would be fair unless someone watched her pump which is weird....too many chances for cheating.

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I was really hoping someone would be in the other corner for this debate, because i was so ready to tear into this one LOL.

Maybe this mom is here on PO somewhere? Smile

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Exactly what Spacers said. And I am totally one for taking baby everywhere and nursing everywhere, but that is way too distracting for the others in the class. Its not the nursing that is distracting IMO, but the baby being there in the first place.

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I didn't say that she should be allowed to leave the exam unsupervised, or that she should get a break during an exam that is not very long, but IME college exams are *very* long. Some of my exams ran three hours with no break, and many were four hours with one 10-minute break. There was a man in some of my classes who was in a wheelchair and needed a longer break to be able to use the restroom, and my university always accomodated him; someone would accompany him to the restroom if it wasn't a scheduled break, and he would have extra time at the end of the exam so he got the same amount of time to finish as everyone else. My babies were both close to a year old before I could handle a four-hour stretch without pumping, and I think even a three-hour stretch most of that first year where they were nursing full-time would have been distracting for me. If I was in that situation, I would ask, well in advance, for a supervised break, or a longer break, so that I could pump. I think that is a reasonable accomodation during very long exams. If the university said no, I'd deal with it but I wouldn't never think to show up with baby in tow.

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"freddieflounder101" wrote:

Honestly I don't think you can let someone leave an exam. And what are you going to do, have someone watch her nurse?

"Jessica80" wrote:

How long would the exam be that you would need to pump in between? My college exams were all at max 2 hours. If I had been nursing then I could have pumped before or after. I pumped every 4 hours while working. Why would she need to leave? I also don't think that would be fair unless someone watched her pump which is weird....too many chances for cheating.

I think if the exam was longer than two hours, you could (and maybe are required) to structure it in such a way that everyone would have a break in the middle. I'm not sure on this, but I would think that would make sense, especially if you arent even allowing people to leave the room for bathroom breaks.

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"KimPossible" wrote:

I was really hoping someone would be in the other corner for this debate, because i was so ready to tear into this one LOL.

Maybe this mom is here on PO somewhere? Smile

OK, why is there no "like" button on this post???? I need a like button for this one.

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I never had those kinds of exams, I admit. I was a writing major.

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I think my longest college exam was a little over 2 hours? I do not remember anything over 3 hours

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I was an accounting major and it was an evening program, so our regular classes were all 2 or 2.5 hours long depending on the number of credits, and exams were even longer.

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Yeah, I've never had a 2-hour exam, even, in my whole life.

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When I was in school our finals were booked for 2 hour blocks regardless of how long the normal class was scheduled for. I was typically out in 1 hour for most of them. I've never experienced anything longer than that.

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My nursing school final was 6 hours with a break in the middle. Also, I wrote my piano theory exams every year with a kid with Tourette's. They never removed him from the gym even though he was driving the rest of us batty. Like, put the kid in a different room for pete's sake.

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We had 3 hours for all final exams. Most took about 2 hours if you knew the answers.

I am fairly pro BF but I don't think an awake child should be brought into class never mind an exam. I would have supported her if she had asked to bring a care giver and be allowed to nurse if necessary with the child outside the room. This would have had to be done in advance though like any other special request.

I BF both for a year and there was no point where I could not have written a 3 hour exam due to BF or needing to pump. I might have needed to pump right after though!