Back-in angled parking spaces

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Back-in angled parking spaces

San Francisco has installed back-in angled parking spaces along a few stretches of roadway that are shared with a dedicated bike lane. The idea is that it's safer for both motorists and bicyclists. The bicyclists & motorists can see one another better on the car's way in, motorists can see everything better on their way out, and there's less "blocked lane" time both ways.
SFMTA Installs Bike Lanes, Back-In Angled Parking on John Muir Drive | Streetsblog San Francisco

An article about why it's safer
Why back-in parking is safer - The Week

A video entitled: Why back-in parking sucks, public outcry in Victor Idaho.
Why back-in parking sucks, public outcry in Victor Idaho - YouTube

The bicycle coalition here is very happy with this but not everyone else is. Each block lost two parking spaces in the transition from "90-degree" parking, which is usually never seen as a good thing in this city. And it seems a lot of people never learned how to back into a parking spot -- and don't want to learn how to do it now! The other day I saw a truck parked at an angle, but headed in with traffic, across the lines, and thus taking up three spaces. (He had three tickets, too!) Today I saw a woman trying to turn her car the 120 degrees or so to pull in head-first within the lines despite signs saying "Back-in Angled Parking ONLY" and despite it seeming to be completely against common sense to turn one's car all the way around to pretty much face traffic when parked.

What do you think? Is back-in parking a good idea, especially on streets with a dedicated bike lane? One of the roads they did this on is notorious for accidents where motorists just back out over the bike lane; they're looking for cars, not bikes. This does seem to solve that problem, and the bike coalition says there hasn't been *any* accidents involving bikes on that road since the back-in angled parking was set up.

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There are some of those spaces here. I do not use them because I am not good at backing up. I do not care though if a few streets that way. There are bike trails all throughout our city, but I never connected the streets to bike riding.

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While I can technically back into a parking space and parallel park, not having to do it for 17 years on a regular basis does not make me proficient in it. I would be upset about this and for losing city parking.

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There is a town near here who have it, I hate it, it is so hard to get in with holding up traffic (one way main street) so if I am there I park elsewhere and walk

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How is it harder to get in? It's actually easier to get in than most 90-degree parking spaces where you have to turn in, and then back in & out a couple of times, before you're squared in. With these, you back up once, job done. In the real-life parking world, you're holding up traffic far less than with 90-degree parking spaces, both getting in *and* getting out.

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If this was really about cyclists' safety they would put in Dutch-style separate cycle paths.

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The way the street is set up it is much harder, it's just a dodgy design in that place. It's also rural so lots of large utes and four wheel drives which all park poorly and take up a space and a half.

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"blather" wrote:

If this was really about cyclists' safety they would put in Dutch-style separate cycle paths.

This kind of separate bike path is being installed along a number of S.F. streets, but they aren't feasible everywhere. When you have to have a street, a bike path, and street parking, all in the same space, what else would you suggest?