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    Quote Originally Posted by Potter75 View Post
    Excuse me grumpy pants? Yes- my argument is that requiring background checks of parent volunteers is silly. Doesn't seem to be working well in your area as it sounds like kids are being preyed upon by any and everyone in your schools. How sad. We live in a very safe community- frankly convicted felons have a hard time affording our area. We don't have a lot of convicts child molesters in our zip codes or surrounding ones. I just don't agree with unfounded paranoiA.
    Wow! No I am not grumpy. I just dont think that 'silly' is a valid debate point, and it seems to be all you've 'argued'.

    You make a lot of assumptions in this post that are not true, and not sure why you would make them. Kids in my 'area' are not preyed upon more then kids anywhere.....honestly I just dont know what to say to the rest of this. Even if I stipulate that everything you say about your area is true, I cant say I like your 'if it doesnt help my kids it is not needed' attitude. Try taking a more global perspective for a moment and thinking of someone other than your own family and area.
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    Quote Originally Posted by freddieflounder101 View Post
    Wow. Parents here don't do any of those things. They bring snacks to classes and help decorate for parties and do fundraisers and work at school events, but there's no one-on-one help for kids from other people's parents or random volunteers. I have never even heard of that.
    For the 3 years I volunteered in my kids classes at public school all I did was 1-on-1 stuff. The class sizes were huge and I spent 3 days a week, 2 hours a day helping the kids that needed the extra help.In DD#2s kindy class I had to do reading with one girl everyday, because at the end of the year her parents still had not looked at first day of school papers in her take home folder. I have not had to do that at my kids private schools, but I also have more kids and I am working more hours so I am not sure if they dont need the extra help, or I am just not being asked to do it

    If all volunteers did was fun decorating, or copying then this conversation might not even have to happen. But given the world we live in and the state of the economy volunteers are needed more then ever to help make sure none of the kids fall through the crack
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    Oh right-it's super helpful in poor urban areas. The schools have NO money, and you think a single mother is going to she'll out the money to pay for it if she is on a tight budget? Say she wanted to take a day off of work to be a mystery reader to surprise her son or to go on a field trip around his birthday- and she has to pay for a background check to volunteer ONE day? So what happens? She doesn't do it and the school and the kids lose out. Everyone loses. Great work. All for some faux illusion of increased safety. Those schools NEED volunteers the most.

    You can reduce my argument to "silly" but the people actually readings my posts thankfully disagree with you and are understanding my point so I'm not worried about your lack of comprehension or your rudeness. After all, I have a Mei tai in my hand and just finished a great round of golf. Maholo.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Potter75 View Post
    Oh right-it's super helpful in poor urban areas. The schools have NO money, and you think a single mother is going to she'll out the money to pay for it if she is on a tight budget? Say she wanted to take a day off of work to be a mystery reader to surprise her son or to go on a field trip around his birthday- and she has to pay for a background check to volunteer ONE day? So what happens? She doesn't do it and the school and the kids lose out. Everyone loses. Great work. All for some faux illusion of increased safety. Those schools NEED volunteers the most.

    You can reduce my argument to "silly" but the people actually readings my posts thankfully disagree with you and are understanding my point so I'm not worried about your lack of comprehension or your rudeness. After all, I have a Mei tai in my hand and just finished a great round of golf. Maholo.
    Fortunately the world is not separated into 'super well off areas' and 'poor urban areas'. Most of us live somewhere in between. You know, where the convicted felons can afford to live. Also, I think almost all of us have stipulated that we are talking about volunteers who will be alone with our children, and not a one day drop in helper.

    I did not call your argument silly, you did. See I am reading your posts and I comprehend them just fine. Sorry you think I am being rude, but all I am doing is disagreeing with you.
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    A field trip helper could easily be alone. Some schools require them for everyone. Try to keep up.

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    I choose to step away from this debate.
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    Please stop with the rude / demeaning comments and debate the topic. It is fine to disagree but make your point without mocking someone else. Everyone here is capable of reading, but have the right to disagree.

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    Again, I believe I shared my opinion previously -- I understand background checks for volunteers working in a 1:1 capacity (outside of supervision)... but would hate to see it required of *everyone* to the point that I believe the single mom, grandpa, community "celebrity", etc. that wants to drop in for a special reading program... or one required of ALL parents coming to the school to watch their child in a performance that they help with last minute costume adjustments... or all those parents willing to step up and volunteer their time for bake sale or other school fundraisers.

    I also can connect this same requirement then being made for various youth sports programs within the community that rely on volunteer involvement to keep things running. For some it could force them to close their doors. (Again - I am focusing on those SEPARATE than those that are tasked with working 1:1 with kids without supervision.)

    I honestly wish that things were different, but unfortunately we do live in a world where predators are on the increase in all areas. It truly saddens me as a parent as I see more of our kids robbed of a time of innocence we cannot get back as we *have* to talk with them about "stranger danger", "good/bad touches", etc.

    Overall, however, I would like to see us settle on a balanced approach of the 1:1 background checks required; supervised / occasional volunteers still being encouraged to participate.
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    [QUOTE=ftmom;9070260I am really not understanding your argument. Have you made one?[/QUOTE]
    Questioning comprehension is logical in response to this post. Thanks. The points made were clear. To infer otherwise is either related to an inability to understand or an intent to be rude.

    Also - missy - please cite your feeling that predators are on the rise in all areas. Many of the boys who were routinely preyed upon as a matter of course in the church, Boy Scouts, and catholic schools in previous generations might disagree with your claim. I would as well. We sensationalize these crimes more today- yes- bit I believe that my children are safer than they were a generation or two ago. Please show me what you are basing your claim on.
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    Sometimes it seems really flip but, we have gone back and forth. Which of course is the nature of debate.

    I probably should have elaborated on the OP, but I did post the whole article and I hoped that that would be the baseline.

    Then again, the pathos of grooming a victim within the confines of that we (MissyJ, potter, freddieflounder, etc. and I) agree are prudent and acceptable, can happen.

    I really appreciate this debate because it is the school where my eldest is in Kindergarten. I know all the players and I think it's all a bit paraniod and nutso.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rivergallery View Post
    I have different idea.. anyone that can't be alone with children never is let back into society, then we would never need background checks
    Can I just say. . . WTF?

    What? Kill everyone who has done . . . what? Is that the idea? And you are on the selling side of homeschooling? Sheesh!

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