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    Quote Originally Posted by mom3girls View Post
    Those of you that are for the ban feel there is any constitutionality to the ban?
    I'm not American and probably not the most versed in your constitution, but what right could this infringe on?

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    Hi Kim! Good to see you too.

    Yeah...I guess I am torn on this one. I think it's repulsive that they sell these things and that people buy them, but I do hate the whole nanny state mentality. And I get that certain sectors of the population are saturated with bad messaging and few food options.

    It is a tough one. I'm going to read the rest of that article.
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    I guess Big Gulps are safe for now....

    A New York judge is forcing the Bloomberg administration to take a big gulp -- striking down its groundbreaking and controversial limit on the size of sugary drinks in New York City shortly before it was set to take effect.

    Manhattan state Supreme Court Justice Milton Tingling wrote in his opinion that the rules are "arbitrary and capricious," applying to only certain beverages and only certain stores.

    "The loopholes in this rule effectively defeat the stated purpose of this rule," he wrote, complaining of "uneven enforcement even within a particular City block, much less the City as a whole."

    New York City Mayor Michael Bloomberg plans to appeal, his office said on Twitter shortly after the ruling.

    "We believe (the city) has the legal authority and responsibility to tackle causes of the obesity epidemic, which kills 5,000 NYers a year," his office said, voicing confidence that the measure would be upheld.

    But Tingling said the city's Board of Health went beyond its authority, and effectively would be "limited by its own imagination" if left unchecked.

    "The portion cap rule, if upheld, would create an administrative Leviathan and violate the separation of powers doctrine," by straying into territory that should belong to the elected City Council, not the board appointed by Mayor Michael Bloomberg, Tingling wrote.

    That, he wrote, "has the potential to be more troubling than sweetened beverages.

    Read more: NY judge halts Bloomberg ban on large sugary drinks | Fox News
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    Guess NYC better stock up on Insulin!
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    I agree that people should be more responsible with their bodies and eating/drinking habits, but it's nanny state all the way. Just another way for the government to try to come in and tell you what you can and cannot do. And once that floodgate is opened, who knows what will be next?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Starryblue702 View Post
    I agree that people should be more responsible with their bodies and eating/drinking habits, but it's nanny state all the way. Just another way for the government to try to come in and tell you what you can and cannot do. And once that floodgate is opened, who knows what will be next?
    My husband and I are on opposite sides of this one. My main argument is that they're not actually stopping you from drinking as much soda as you like. (Well it didn't go through anyway so they're not stopping you from anything.) But if it did, it's only stopping certain sellers from maintaining the illusion that that ginormous serving is a reasonable size for one person. I seriously can't see any harm in it whatsoever. But he is hung up on principle as well. I just don't get it.
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    I hope they start selling gigantic swimming pool options. People can just dive into their own soda and drink their way out. THey can go straight into diabetic shock if they so desire. It will be awesome. Whatever they want, all at their fingertips! If they don't care about their health why should I? I used to, and I wanted to try to help their kids, but I'm so tired of hearing about their gd rights to drink a thousand ounces of soda I'm just throwing up my hands in disgust. And yes it makes me sad, but if people don't want to help themselves what can you do? And yes, their children are the ones who are going to suffer the most in all of this, and they are the ones who actually still had a fighting chance to be saved. Its just sad. And oh yes, the SLIPPERY SLOPE!!!! The Government was probably JUST about to start handing out government rations to all of us! Just, like salad and chicken and tofu and green smoothies, all day, every day! I bet it was just about to happen, because of the big gulp ban. Good thing this was overturned before big brother could take over our plates! Please.
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    True, but remember before when they tried to raise the prices on juice boxes and things like that to try and "deter"parents from buying them because they were unhealthy for kids? I think if they care so much and want to have a hand in helping keep Americans healthy, maybe they should make healthy food cheaper? One of the problems is that junk food is much cheaper than fruits and veggies, so the average American household doesn't buy very much of it, which is why 37% of the nation is obese. Again, I don't think they should have a say at all, either way, but they're taking the wrong approach IMO.
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    I don't buy the argument that fresh produce is more expensive than junk, number one, and number two, I would argue that for many overweight or obese people the convenience of processed packaged crap is more appealing than buying a bag of carrots that they have to *gasp* peel and prepare. $1.99 for a 2L of pop, or a buck more for milk. No one is going to convince me that the dollar is the deciding factor in whether someone chooses pop or milk. It's sugar addiction.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ClairesMommy View Post
    I don't buy the argument that fresh produce is more expensive than junk, number one, and number two, I would argue that for many overweight or obese people the convenience of processed packaged crap is more appealing than buying a bag of carrots that they have to *gasp* peel and prepare. $1.99 for a 2L of pop, or a buck more for milk. No one is going to convince me that the dollar is the deciding factor in whether someone chooses pop or milk. It's sugar addiction.
    As an aside to the debate, the cost of milk varies by location. Milk here is 2 to 3x more expensive than in NY were my parents live. A 2L of soda here is $.89. A gallon of milk is $4.00-$5.00 or more for the brand name.

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