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    Quote Originally Posted by Alana*sMommy View Post
    Well personally I think the ban is ludicrous. I think exempting Starbucks because they possibly contain dairy is even more ludicrous.

    I don't know. A venti is 20 oz hot and 24 oz cold. The drinks which are exempted do contain milk. Milk does contain some beneficial nutrients, which I can't say for anything about soda. To compare it to a Big gulp is just hard for me to do. To compare the ingredient list of the two beverages would be shockingly different. I would also argue that it probably isn't a venti capuccino that is making our poorest kids our fattest, sickest, most overweight and diabetic. Do you think that Starbucks is to blame for that problem? I mean, if there were compelling evidence to suggest that they were, maybe I could get on board with limiting their sizes, but I don't think of coffee drinks as being marketed to children, I guess. Soda and children is really a sore spot with me. If adults are stupid enough to drink soda, thats on them.......when they are stupid enough to feed it to their poor kids, it really bothers me. I don't really see the same demographic issue with starbucks, you know? I admit to not liking starbucks however, so maybe I don't know it and a ton of kids drink venti starbucks on a regular basis.

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    I have read a lot of different commits about this on FB today. More than one person mentioned the irony in wanting to have a choice in what goes on in their own body but not having a choice about how much soda you should be able to put in that same body.

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    I hardly think of a Frap as a good source of nutrients. Do you? The whole 80 or so grams of sugar that goes with the milk kinda negates the "benefits" if you ask me. But if you don't think the Big Gulp and a ginormous Frap are comparable.....then so be it.

    And just so you know, I don't think Big Gulps are to blame for our childhood obesity problems. I'd have to lay that blame on parents. But then again, I must be "stupid" because I allow my kids to drink soda from time to time. What the heck do I know......

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    Quote Originally Posted by AlyssaEimers View Post
    I have read a lot of different commits about this on FB today. More than one person mentioned the irony in wanting to have a choice in what goes on in their own body but not having a choice about how much soda you should be able to put in that same body.

    You could buy as many soda bottles as you want and drink yourself into a diabetic coma if you want. are these posters illiterate and unable to understand the ban? No one is policing what you put into your body. You are not able to leave a bar in PA with more than 2 6 packs. Is that NANNY STATE? Or does that just mean that you buy two. go back in, buy two more, so on and so forth? I mean, if people want to drink themselves into a sugar coma on soda they have every right to do so. They will just be poorer, like those in NYC who are paying 12-14 bucks a pack. Makes you think twice before you shell out for that second bottle, or buy that pack of smokes. And that is great, because is is simply disgusting and unhealthy to do either.

    So yea, nothing in my heart breaks for the little boy who can ONLY have 16 oz (1 lb) of soda with his lunch today. Boo. Hoo. Perhaps it will help him learn how to eat and drink like a normal person, since clearly his parents couldn't teach him that themselves. They are probably sucking down big gulps themselves and the kid never had a chance to see what a "normal" portion of an unhealthy beverage might look like. Perhaps this could help him learn, and change.

    If you are trying to make some pro choice comparison that is a total fail.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alana*sMommy View Post
    I hardly think of a Frap as a good source of nutrients. Do you? The whole 80 or so grams of sugar that goes with the milk kinda negates the "benefits" if you ask me.

    And just so you know, I don't think Big Gulps are to blame for our childhood obesity problems. I'd have to lay that blame on parents. But then again, I must be "stupid" because I allow my kids to drink soda from time to time. What the heck do I know......

    I'm not calling you stupid, but yes, I do think that feeding a product like soda to little children is stupid. There is no benefit and only harm. As your girls are athletes it is especially unusual to me, but hey, thats just me. Healthy bodies and good eating habits are a priority with us, but I recognize that they are not to all parents.

    I don't even know what a frappucino is, like I said I don't go there. I don't even drink coffee (or eat sugar but for rare occasions) anymore. I wasn't saying it was a good choice, I was simply providing a link to explain why they weren't banned in answer to your question, please don't act as though I am defending it as a wise choice. I would never put that into my body. I treasure my health too much to spike it with sugar like that, gross! You are putting words in my mouth, I don't think that a frap OR a big gulp are good choices. In explaining something to you I am not defending it, just explaining the law since you didn't seem to know it. I accidentally deleted your sentence accusing me of that when I was trying to bold it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Potter75 View Post
    I'm not calling you stupid, but yes, I do think that feeding a product like soda to little children is stupid. There is no benefit and only harm. As your girls are athletes it is especially unusual to me, but hey, thats just me. Healthy bodies and good eating habits are a priority with us, but I recognize that they are not to all parents.

    I don't even know what a frappucino is, like I said I don't go there. I don't even drink coffee (or eat sugar but for rare occasions) anymore. I wasn't saying it was a good choice, I was simply providing a link to explain why they weren't banned in answer to your question, please don't act as though I am defending it as a wise choice. I would never put that into my body. I treasure my health too much to spike it with sugar like that, gross! You are putting words in my mouth, I don't think that a frap OR a big gulp are good choices. In explaining something to you I am not defending it, just explaining the law since you didn't seem to know it. I accidentally deleted your sentence accusing me of that when I was trying to bold it.
    This debate is getting way too personal over Big Gulps, lol. First you question the literacy of others and then....well never mind. We have a dance event that we need to get ready for and that definitely beats arguing over Big Gulps and Fraps (and do you seriously not know what a Frap is? And you call me stupid? lol I mean, I don't hang out at strip joints but I know what lap dances are....)

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    I'm stupid because I don't know what a store that I don't go into names a made up drink they created that I have never gotten? Thats a weird argument You are just mad cause I think its trashy to feed little kids soda. Sorry. I just do. Good luck at the competition!

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    Quote Originally Posted by GloriaInTX View Post
    So why aren't the environmentalists screaming about this issue. Just think how much more trash this will generate with all the extra bottles and cups people will buy.
    Why? I can still go to the grocery store and buy a huge bottle of liquid sugar.

    It's pretty much places where you would be getting a drink to go or a refillable cup. Except for sports venues, there wouldn't be that much of an increase. It's not going to generate that much more trash.

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    Yes I still think it is stupid. I also think it is stupid to only be able to buy 2 6 packs at a time (although I know in PA you have those "beer store" things where you can buy more. ) I found it really weird and inconvenient to go from store to store to just buy a 6 pack and a bottle of wine. Made no sense to me.

    I'm not anti soda. I like soda for myself (my kids don't have any) but I still don't blame 1 food/drink item for people being obese. It just doesn't make sense. I live in one of least obese states in the country and most people I know drink soda frequently.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Potter75 View Post
    I'm stupid because I don't know what a store that I don't go into names a made up drink they created that I have never gotten? Thats a weird argument You are just mad cause I think its trashy to feed little kids soda. Sorry. I just do. Good luck at the competition!
    So I'm "trashy", "stupid", and "illiterate"? Wow, sound bitter much? Perhaps you need a Venti Frap, a lap dance, and a chill pill......

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