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    Quote Originally Posted by GloriaInTX View Post
    Somehow I don't think mind altering drugs are in the same category as sugar. And anything can harm you in excess, even water. That doesn't mean it is bad.
    Gloria, a joint won't hurt you, neither will a beer, or 20 oz of pop, or a glass of water.

    The trouble is that some things have addictive qualities. No one is saying "BAN ALL SUGAR DRINKS!!!". They are saying, many (like 2/3 of the people in the US) are struggling with their weight and associated health problems, maybe - just maybe - it will help not to offer them huge cupfuls of sugar.

    And yes, too much water is bad too... But, I am 1000% certain the incidence of water intoxication is far, far, far less than the incidence of obesity, heart disease, type 2 diabetes, or any of the other things known to be linked with being overweight.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GloriaInTX View Post
    As I said.... even water can be harmful in excess. You can't regulate something that in and of itself isn't harmful. I'm sure that there are a lot of skinny people that drink soda. Why should they be punished? Should we have a scale and everyone that is buying a drink needs to step on a scale before they are able to buy something with sugar in it?
    The skinny people don't need to drink copious amount of sugar either.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kris_w View Post
    The skinny people don't need to drink copious amount of sugar either.
    Wrong. I know a lot of skinny people that drink soda all the time. It all depends on your metabolism.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GloriaInTX View Post
    Wrong. I know a lot of skinny people that drink soda all the time. It all depends on your metabolism.
    She said skinny people don't NEED to drink copious amounts of sugar. And she's right...thats true. There is nothing 'wrong' about that statement. What does the amount of skinny people you know who drink a lot of soda have to do with how good of a choice that is?

    i'd say that means you know a lot of skinny people who make bad choices when it comes to soda consumption. I certainly don't think it means that some people need a lot of soda.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kris_w View Post
    Gloria, a joint won't hurt you, neither will a beer, or 20 oz of pop, or a glass of water.

    The trouble is that some things have addictive qualities. No one is saying "BAN ALL SUGAR DRINKS!!!". They are saying, many (like 2/3 of the people in the US) are struggling with their weight and associated health problems, maybe - just maybe - it will help not to offer them huge cupfuls of sugar.

    And yes, too much water is bad too... But, I am 1000% certain the incidence of water intoxication is far, far, far less than the incidence of obesity, heart disease, type 2 diabetes, or any of the other things known to be linked with being overweight.
    Drugs and alcohol aren't even a part of this debate. They have completely different regulations. It is silly to limit a legal product because some people have a problem controlling themselves. There is no limit on the package size or quantity you can buy even on cigarettes which are known to be addictive.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GloriaInTX View Post
    Drugs and alcohol aren't even a part of this debate. They have completely different regulations. It is silly to limit a legal product because some people have a problem controlling themselves. There is no limit on the package size or quantity you can buy even on cigarettes which are known to be addictive.
    Some people? Too many people. The government has even acknowledged that obesity is a serious problem for our country. This is not just an issue of helping a few people out who can't control themselves. This is a step in trying to improve the health of our entire nation.

    Why do people refuse to acknowledge how serious of a problem obesity in the US is???

    Edited to add: And there are regulation in place to help discourage you from buying copious amounts of cigarettes. They just come in a different form, in the form of taxes. And of course alcohol and tobacco fall under different categories than this does. Its kind of impractical to put all substances under one law.

    They are still good examples of things that only cause significant harm (emphasis on significant) in certain scenarios or quantities....and that people seem to have trouble self regulating.

    They are great examples.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KimPossible View Post
    She said skinny people don't NEED to drink copious amounts of sugar. And she's right...thats true. There is nothing 'wrong' about that statement. What does the amount of skinny people you know who drink a lot of soda have to do with how good of a choice that is?

    i'd say that means you know a lot of skinny people who make bad choices when it comes to soda consumption. I certainly don't think it means that some people need a lot of soda.
    What does NEED have to do with it. What are we going to put limits on everything we don't need to survive? That would be a LOT of things. This is supposed to be a free country where we have the freedom to make our own choices.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GloriaInTX View Post
    What does NEED have to do with it. What are we going to put limits on everything we don't need to survive? That would be a LOT of things. This is supposed to be a free country where we have the freedom to make our own choices.
    Because those against this ban talk like they are entitled to a 20oz soda. You aren't entitled to it. So its fair to point out that its just soda, something that you don't need....and that you can still drink 20oz of soda actually if you really really want to.

    The only reason why you have a 20oz cup in the first place is because some business who doesn't give a crap about your health thought it was was a good idea. Its not like you have a 20oz cup of soda because it was given to you by God. and therefor we should always have it. And when that business gives you a 20oz option, i think its fair to say that they are doing it at the expense of your health, because it encourages people to over consume. 20oz of soda is over-consumption of a bad thing, whether you are fat or thin.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GloriaInTX View Post
    This is supposed to be a free country where we have the freedom to make our own choices.
    Then why aren't you complaining that there are no 72 oz cups at your local mcDonald's.

    You don't have that choice? Why aren't you unhappy about that?
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    Quote Originally Posted by KimPossible View Post
    Then why aren't you complaining that there are no 72 oz cups at your local mcDonald's.

    You don't have that choice? Why aren't you unhappy about that?
    Its called supply and demand. That is what business is about. If people wanted 72 oz cups then they would probably have them. If people have a choice between a 16 oz drink and a 20 oz drink and they choose the 20 oz drink more often, than that is what the business is going to supply. If people stop buying a 20 oz drink then they would stop selling them.
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