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    I most certainly do not think that the mob of bikers was at all behaving well. But even if you are stopped at a stoplight and you are somehow involved in a collision, aren't you usually held somewhat responsible?

    If I was driving down the road and a swarm of motorcyclists surrounded my car, I'd slow as much as possible and try to get off the road without hitting anyone. I wouldn't immediately assume that they were going to do me harm, I'd get the heck out of the way though and I'd do anything I could to not hit one. I know some very nice motorcyclists who do weekend rides in larger groups. I have also run across less nice people

    Maybe the driver did that, it is hard to tell. And I guess, I am still erring on the side of it being a cascade of errors. The attack from the bikers is wrong for sure. But is the SUV driver 100% innocent here? I don't know.

    The second time he hit someone - the man he ran over, sadly I can understand how that happened. What a horrible thing for the SUV driver and the man who was injured! I would be super scared and I would protect my family.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bunnyfufu View Post
    I most certainly do not think that the mob of bikers was at all behaving well. But even if you are stopped at a stoplight and you are somehow involved in a collision, aren't you usually held somewhat responsible?
    But he DID stop! The biker pulled in front of him and slowed down in front of him purposely forcing him to stop for no reason, and that is when the bike got bumped. It was a minor bump and it was the bikers fault for purposely pulling in front of him, that is why the biker was charged with reckless driving. At that point the vehicle was stopped. The bikers then got off their bikes and were surrounding his vehicle and pounding on it and spiking his tires. There were bikes all stopped around his vehicle so he had no way to get out of the situation without driving over some of the bikes, so that is what he did. I don't think he purposely ran over the guy he was just trying to get away. After that happened the bikers continued to follow him until he stopped again because he got stuck in traffic, at that point they broke the windows, dragged him out of the car and beat him up to the point that he needed stitches. Yes I do think the SUV driver is 100% innocent here.
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    At least from everything I have read, I agree with Gloria on this one. The way I have heard it reported several places is the way she is telling it, that he was driving down the road, a bunch of bikers surrounded his car and one got in front of him and slowed down to make him stop. He bumped the one that made him stop, but it was a minor bump, and still the fault of the motorcycle since he intentionally got in front of him and then slowed down to make him stop. At that point, he was stopped, but then the motorcyclists started banging on and damaging his car, so he gunned it out of there.

    Again, we may not know the whole story, but if the above is the way it happened, I simply cannot see holding him responsible for anything.
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    These videos shot by the same group before this incident happened give a great idea of how great law-abiding citizens these bikers are. The are zipping in and out of traffic and going around and between cars and on the shoulder and are very reckless. I don't think that will help their case any.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bunnyfufu View Post
    I most certainly do not think that the mob of bikers was at all behaving well. But even if you are stopped at a stoplight and you are somehow involved in a collision, aren't you usually held somewhat responsible?

    If I was driving down the road and a swarm of motorcyclists surrounded my car, I'd slow as much as possible and try to get off the road without hitting anyone. I wouldn't immediately assume that they were going to do me harm, I'd get the heck out of the way though and I'd do anything I could to not hit one. I know some very nice motorcyclists who do weekend rides in larger groups. I have also run across less nice people

    Maybe the driver did that, it is hard to tell. And I guess, I am still erring on the side of it being a cascade of errors. The attack from the bikers is wrong for sure. But is the SUV driver 100% innocent here? I don't know.

    The second time he hit someone - the man he ran over, sadly I can understand how that happened. What a horrible thing for the SUV driver and the man who was injured! I would be super scared and I would protect my family.
    Not sure quite what you mean, but no, if you are stopped at a stop light and are rear-ended, you are not held responsible.

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    Obviously their reckless driving means they should all get the death penalty, Gloria.

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    I watched some videos today of this incident and the SUV driver should not be held liable. The bikers were acting recklessly and unfortunately people got hurt. HOpefully they will learn from this.

    I did hear that the guy that was run over hired Gloria Allred for an attorney.
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    Quote Originally Posted by blather View Post
    Obviously their reckless driving means they should all get the death penalty, Gloria.
    Where did that come from? It certainly shows that they were driving recklessly and were likely responsible for the initial confrontation. I don't think the death penalty applies for assaulting someone and slashing him with a knife, or for reckless driving, but I do hope the one that assaulted him and the one who caused the initial accident get the appropriate punishment.
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