Boy Scouts Tp (Possibly) End Homosexual Ban

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Originally Posted by Potter75

Gloria, I know that that is what you have to believe because of your biblical views on homosexuality, but it simply isn't what science tells us. I'm sorry. Please take the time to read this, or any one of the multitude of studies like it.

Facts About Homosexuality and Child Molestation

Your views make you a bit of a dinosaur, actually.



And those numbers are from 15 years ago, I imagine with the continued education and exposure we all have they have dropped substantially more from there.

AS to your assertion that 100% of the men (apparently morally straight scout leaders who had themselves sworn their scout oath, husbands, fathers, and scouts themselves) who molested or had sexual contact with or raped little boys or young men and then were sheltered and protected by the scouts......could you please prove how you are 100% certain that they are homosexual?

I do understand that these may be the people that you are listening to

Six Scout Supporters Who Say Gays Are Child Molesters | Advocate.com

I think that these people are scary and sadly confusing their political position with actual facts.

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Gloria are you saying the fact that they rape males and not females is indicative of sexual preference. I am assuming that is what Gloria means. ALL boys that are molested by men, those men were homosexual? And all the children in Boyscouts that were molested were males.

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Originally Posted by Rivergallery

Gloria are you saying the fact that they rape males and not females is indicative of sexual preference. I am assuming that is what Gloria means. ALL boys that are molested by men, those men were homosexual? And all the children in Boyscouts that were molested were males.

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Exactly.

Funny though, my little bro wasn't molested by a 'gay' Scout Leader all the years he was in it. It wasn't until he joined a boys' church choir that he was molested by a married choirmaster with children, on church property, and his boat, and in his house, and at camp. Funny how that happens, hey?

I would agree, but also think that those interacting with children are in their own category also. As a normal hetro or homosexual person would never have sexual relations with a child.

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Originally Posted by ClairesMommy

Funny though, my little bro wasn't molested by a 'gay' Scout Leader all the years he was in it. It wasn't until he joined a boys' church choir that he was molested by a married choirmaster with children, on church property, and his boat, and in his house, and at camp. Funny how that happens, hey?

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You do know that homeosexuals can be married and in heterosexual relationships.. Heck he was probably bisexual. ;).. plus an evil person.

The turn in conversation makes me sick (not that it was irrelevant, but the idea of little kids getting molested). Regardless of where it happens, it is a terrible tragedy.

Pedophilia is not homosexual/heterosexual. I don't think of a man that molests little girls as a heterosexual. I think of him as a sicko pedophile.

Many pedophiles identify as straight in their "adult" relationships and abuse both boys and girls.

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Originally Posted by Rivergallery

Gloria are you saying the fact that they rape males and not females is indicative of sexual preference. I am assuming that is what Gloria means. ALL boys that are molested by men, those men were homosexual? And all the children in Boyscouts that were molested were males.

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Another problem related to terminology arises because sexual abuse of male children by adult men² is often referred to as "homosexual molestation." The adjective "homosexual" (or "heterosexual" when a man abuses a female child) refers to the victim's gender in relation to that of the perpetrator. Unfortunately, people sometimes

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mistakenly interpret

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it as referring to the perpetrator's sexual orientation.
To avoid this confusion, it is preferable to refer to men's sexual abuse of boys with the more accurate label of male-malemolestation. Similarly, it is preferable to refer to men's abuse of girls as male-female molestation. These labels are more accurate because they describe the sex of the individuals involved but don't implicitly convey

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unwarranted assumptions

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about the perpetrator's sexual orientation.

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Just because you and gloria may want to call something gay, doesn't make it gay. It just makes you wrong.

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Originally Posted by Rivergallery

You do know that homeosexuals can be married and in heterosexual relationships.. Heck he was probably bisexual. ;).. plus an evil person.

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Right. His preference for the opposite sex (while seemingly straight) had nothing to do with his assaults on young boys. It was his preference for young children, boys OR girls that made him a heinous person. Men pray on young girls all.the.time.

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Originally Posted by Potter75

Just because you and gloria may want to call something gay, doesn't make it gay. It just makes you wrong.

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Look it up yourself. I don't see anything about age in there.

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ho?mo?sex?u?al
adjective \ˌhō-mə-ˈsek-sh(ə-)wəl, -ˈsek-shəl\
Definition of HOMOSEXUAL
1
: of, relating to, or characterized by a tendency to direct sexual desire toward another of the same sex
2
: of, relating to, or involving sexual intercourse between persons of the same sex

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http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/homosexual