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    Boy Scouts close to ending ban on gay members, leaders - U.S. News

    Will this be good for the Scouts, or bad for them? Do you see more people joining the scouts as a result of this, leaving it, or neither? Other thoughts?
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    I think it is a GREAT thing for scouts. I've not let my son participate in it bc of this ban. I can't support them bc of it, and yet I see so many good things about scouting.

    I think it is a step in the right direction (though admittedly, I think each pack/den is different. Here they vary between quite liberal groups and groups mostly of LDS folks.)
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    ITA with Audra. Scouting is something we have chosen, so far, to NOT participate in because of the ban on gays. It's definitely a step in the right direction, although I'm not sure this alone is enough to sway us to join. Our lives seems full enough as it is.
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    I do not have any boys, but even if I did this alone would not be the reason/not a reason to join or not join the boy scouts.

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    I agree with Stacey and Audra. I haven't been confronted with the issue yet, but I was prepared to say no to Scouting specifically because of this ban. I would still have to find out what the individual pack is all about (this decision would leave it up to the pack to decide to ban or not ban) and the religious angle is something that I'm not super comfortable going into until I know more about what that individual pack "preaches" but this is enough for me to lift my over all ban on them and be willing to investigate individual packs for one that fits more with our beliefs if that is something that T is interested in later.
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    The way BSA works -
    Each Pack or Troop, usually there are both.. have a Chartering Organization. Often a church, but could be other groups like LIONS, ELKS etc.
    That Chartering Organization provides - the space, 2 adults, and any help the Pack or Troop need. They also must sign the leaders registration (which is yearly).. they must approve them. This is ideally to prevent criminals or negative influences to affect the pack/troop.
    The Pack and or Troop is required to follow by the guidelines of that Organization. This is seen very apparently in LDS packs/troops.

    The change would be that the BSA would take no stand on sexual issues. And leave the decision up to the Chartering Organization.

    I am ok with it, in our country as I view we should all have that freedom of religion. HOWEVER. I personally as a very conservative parent would not be ok with putting my children into a group with any leaders that discuss sexuality period, or have any PDA.. it is currently taboo even for heterosexuals, and I think that is great. Right now in fact we are LONE SCOUTS, as we disagreed with local BSA leadership. It is an offshoot of BSA, but I am my own children's leader period.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rivergallery View Post
    The way BSA works -
    Each Pack or Troop, usually there are both.. have a Chartering Organization. Often a church, but could be other groups like LIONS, ELKS etc.
    That Chartering Organization provides - the space, 2 adults, and any help the Pack or Troop need. They also must sign the leaders registration (which is yearly).. they must approve them. This is ideally to prevent criminals or negative influences to affect the pack/troop.
    The Pack and or Troop is required to follow by the guidelines of that Organization. This is seen very apparently in LDS packs/troops.

    The change would be that the BSA would take no stand on sexual issues. And leave the decision up to the Chartering Organization.

    I am ok with it, in our country as I view we should all have that freedom of religion. HOWEVER. I personally as a very conservative parent would not be ok with putting my children into a group with any leaders that discuss sexuality period, or have any PDA.. it is currently taboo even for heterosexuals, and I think that is great. Right now in fact we are LONE SCOUTS, as we disagreed with local BSA leadership. It is an offshoot of BSA, but I am my own children's leader period.
    I didn't take it that it's now going to become a Thing for pack leaders to discuss human sexuality with the boys; why would they? And as for PDA, I agree that other than small things (like a quick peck goodbye or putting an arm around your partner) that's not appropriate either. But I would feel that way whether the person was gay or straight. I just don't see this as being a huge change in the way the packs would interact with the boys, other than now people are allowed to be gay.
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    I have never heard of BS meetings discussing sexuality.

    Although, our local Boy Scouts takes place at the Catholic church...we did have sexuality classes there (which, surprisingly were actually pretty decent...although no BC talk )

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    I think it's good. It leaves the options up to the individual pack which means it'll be easier to find one that meets your needs. We were going to do boy scouts either way (I think, I have to look at the time committment) but this way I'll be able to sign up guilt free. I would have a fit if there was any talk about sexual preferences or real PDA whether the scout leader was straight or gay.

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