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    If you refuse to read the actual science on pedophilia and only want to quote Websters dictionary about homosexuality at me, there is nothing to debate. You are, again, being purposely obtuse on a subject. If anyone wants to intelligently debate the actual matter at hand, I'm in.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jessica80 View Post
    Pedophilia is not homosexual/heterosexual. I don't think of a man that molests little girls as a heterosexual. I think of him as a sicko pedophile.

    Many pedophiles identify as straight in their "adult" relationships and abuse both boys and girls.
    From the article Melissa posted.
    Pedophilia is a distinct sexual orientation that involves exclusive attraction to prepubescent children (male or female, generally not both).
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    Quote Originally Posted by GloriaInTX View Post
    From the article Melissa posted.
    Uh, so what are you saying, exactly? You are continually putting the cart before the horse here Gloria. You are attempting to draw a backwards inference of causation between homosexuality and pedophilia, when it just doesn't work that way. You quoted it yourself: a distinct preference to male or female but generally not both (paraphrasing). Where does homosexuality even factor into that quote? It doesn't.

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    I understand what Gloria and Rivergalery are saying. There are only men and boys in boy scouts so that makes it homosexual. However, I think the others are correct. Think of it as a third group. Heterosexual (The attraction to the opposite gender) Homosexual (The attraction to the same gender) and Paedophile (The attraction to children). It is tragic that it happens, but it has nothing to do with homosexuality.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Potter75 View Post
    If you refuse to read the actual science on pedophilia and only want to quote Websters dictionary about homosexuality at me, there is nothing to debate. You are, again, being purposely obtuse on a subject. If anyone wants to intelligently debate the actual matter at hand, I'm in.
    Pedophilia only applies to children 13 and under. So for the 14-18 year old boys in scouts that have been raped... would you say that the man that raped them committed a homosexual act? Or are they straight too?
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    Courts will interpret it as under 18

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jessica80 View Post
    Courts will interpret it as under 18
    What does that have to do with anything? The courts don't care what a pedophile is, to them anyone underage (usually around 17) can't give consent.
    So would you classify a man who rapes a 17 year old girl a pedophile?
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    Quote Originally Posted by GloriaInTX View Post
    Pedophilia only applies to children 13 and under. So for the 14-18 year old boys in scouts that have been raped... would you say that the man that raped them committed a homosexual act?
    Or are they straight too?

    Again, you are being obtuse, because you can't really not understand what is being talked about, right? Do you think that on a boys 14th birthday an act magicly turns from predatory heterosexual pedophilia to gay love sex? I mean, just as a human and as a Mom, do you? Are you honestly asking this question, or just trying to muddy the waters and frustrate people, Gloria? Sorry, but I won't take your bait as everyone on this board knows which direction this debate goes with you.
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    I would classify a man who molests/rapes a 12-year-old girl a pedophile, and not blame it on his heterosexuality.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Potter75 View Post
    Again, you are being obtuse, because you can't really not understand what is being talked about, right? Do you think that on a boys 14th birthday an act magicly turns from predatory heterosexual pedophilia to gay love sex? I mean, just as a human and as a Mom, do you? Are you honestly asking this question, or just trying to muddy the waters and frustrate people, Gloria? Sorry, but I won't take your bait as everyone on this board knows which direction this debate goes with you.
    It is not obtuse to be concerned about a gay man being a scoutmaster over 16 year old boys he may be attracted to. That is not a pedophile. Would it be ok with you for a heterosexual man to take a group of 16 year old girls camping? I certainly don't think that would be appropriate. When he was a single dad my DH wouldn't even let his 14 year old daughter have friends come over to stay the night because it wouldn't be appropriate.
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