Boy Scouts Tp (Possibly) End Homosexual Ban - Page 19
+ Reply to Thread
Page 19 of 53 FirstFirst ... 915161718192021222329 ... LastLast
Results 181 to 190 of 522
Like Tree272Likes

Thread: Boy Scouts Tp (Possibly) End Homosexual Ban

  1. #181
    Posting Addict
    Join Date
    Mar 2003
    Posts
    23,342

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by GloriaInTX View Post
    According to their website there are 287,857 boys in scouts in the 14-18 age range.
    I was joking. (Mostly.)
    Laurie, mom to:
    Nathaniel ( 10 ) and Juliet ( 6 )



    Baking Adventures In A Messy Kitchen (blog)

  2. #182
    Posting Addict
    Join Date
    Mar 2003
    Posts
    23,342

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by AlyssaEimers View Post
    In my opinion, whether or not to have homosexual leaders in boy scouts has nothing to do with the possibility of abuse. Any time you leave a child alone with someone else you are risking that possibility. It happens in school, churches, neighbours, families, and other groups such as scouts. It is a terrible tragedy, but it is your responsibility as parents to make sure you know and trust any one you are leaving your child alone with.
    I agree with this 100%. It IS a risk, always. It's a risk at school or in sports or in any situation like that. So what's next? No gay teachers? No gay coaches? Gay is not the problem.
    Laurie, mom to:
    Nathaniel ( 10 ) and Juliet ( 6 )



    Baking Adventures In A Messy Kitchen (blog)

  3. #183
    Prolific Poster
    Join Date
    Aug 2004
    Posts
    2,192

    Default

    Agreed with Laurie and Bonita.

  4. #184
    Posting Addict
    Join Date
    May 2006
    Posts
    14,461

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by freddieflounder101 View Post
    And I'd have no problem sending my 16-year-old boy out with his troop with a gay male scout leader, although I'd be wondering why he's still in the scouts at 16.
    Although I agree with everything youve said in this debate, my husband was still in the scouts at 16. He didn't attain his Eagle Scout rank till he was 17. It takes a TON of volunteer hours and the service project is really extensive....he was playing three varsity sports at the same time too. And, you know, fighting off all those gay scoutmasters at night in the tents He's hot, what can I say?
    indigoV51 likes this.

  5. #185
    Posting Addict Rivergallery's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2003
    Location
    Oregon
    Posts
    9,744

    Default

    Again, no one either read or understood this - " I would agree, BUT also think that those interacting with children are in their own category also. As a normal hetro or homosexual person would never have sexual relations with a child."

    Not sure why you all didn't read that pedofilia was a different category in my post. One can be hetro an a pedofile, homosexual and a pedofile, bi and a pedofile. I dare say the majority if not all pedofiles do have sexual interactions with adults.. But do see that in some cases they could be a pedofile first and formost and cover it with another "relationship"
    DH-Aug 30th 1997 Josiah - 6/3/02 Isaac 7/31/03

  6. #186
    Community Host Alissa_Sal's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2006
    Location
    Debating Away on the Debate Board!
    Posts
    11,771

    Default

    I just needed to stop and say OMG ROBIN!!!!!!! You're back!!!! And you brought a gay fetus with you! () So happy to see you, and congrats on your pregnancy and all of your life changes! When are you due? So happy to see you!

    Okay, back to the debate.
    -Alissa, mom to Tristan (5) and Reid (the baby!)

    Got an opinion? We've got a board! Come join us for some lively debate on the Face Off! Debate Arena board.

  7. #187
    Posting Addict
    Join Date
    May 2006
    Posts
    14,461

    Default

    Loved this article!!! Every one of you endorsing the bigoted policies of exclusion based solely on sexual orientation should have a crying mothers finger pointed at you.

    I grew up in boy scouts from the age of 12-18. I absolutely loved it. I hope that some day it is an experience my son and I can share together. This week, the National Executive Board of the Boy Scouts of America delayed a decision on whether or not to allow the LGBT community to be open members of their organization. I'll be dropping this letter in the mail today. I thought I'd share it here too.
    Dear Boy Scouts of America,
    I need to tell you something that I suspect you already know. There are already plenty of LGBT people in your organization. In my troop alone there were three gay men that I know of. Two remained closeted until later in life and are still my friends. One came out while still in the troop. We ridiculed him, teased him and bullied him. He was eventually asked to leave the troop by our leadership. He left, broken-hearted.
    His mom, Barbara, was a kind and quiet woman. Before her son left the troop, she had already volunteered to be one of the adults who would attend a once-in-a-lifetime Boy Scout trip to the Philmont Scout Ranch. Knowing that if she didn't attend we wouldn't be able to go, she still went with us -- even though her son wasn't allowed.
    For two weeks we would get to backpack through the wilderness in New Mexico learning outdoor, teambuilding and leadership skills. And for two weeks she would hike silently among us while we used words like gay, queer and faggot.
    About halfway through our second week we were all sitting around the camp fire joking and Barbara hit her breaking point. I don't recall what was said that made her tip, but it was probably something insensitive and hateful. She lashed out sobbing and yelling as she pointed at each one of us accusingly.
    "It is your fault that my son isn't here! It is your fault he is at home crying! It is your fault he lost all of his friends! It is your fault I worry about him every day! You are all so mean!"
    "No," said one of the boys. "It's his fault."
    And then she broke down into sobs, stood up and walked away into the darkness to find her tent.
    She didn't bring it up again. We spent the rest of the week joking and hiking and singing songs on the trail. And while we went home having learned how to tie knots and build a fire without matches, not a single one of us had learned anything that night at the fire.
    A Boy Scout is Trustworthy, Loyal, Helpful, Friendly, Courteous, Kind, Obedient, Cheerful, Thrifty, Brave, Clean and Reverent.
    We were none of these things. And while our cruel behavior was not endorsed by the BSA, the seed of it, an institutional policy of discrimination was.
    It took me a lot of years, and a lot of life experience to realize how wrong we all were sitting around the campfire that night, and how right Barbara was to point her finger at us. So now I'm going to do the same thing to you.
    It is your fault that these kids have to live in fear. It is your fault that they feel isolated and different. It is your fault that LGBT parents of Boy Scouts have to sit down with their kids and explain why they can't be a leader in their troop. It is your fault, Boy Scouts of America.
    It is time to change. I believe you can change -- and as scary as it is, I believe you can survive that change.
    There is so much right about the Boy Scouts. It makes me sad that all that is talked about these days is your policy on homosexuality in your membership. I learned a myriad of different practical, social and leadership skills in the Boy Scouts that have directly contributed to my success today. Not only that, I made some of the greatest friends of my life -- almost all of which I still keep in contact with. Three were groomsman at my wedding. Being a scout was an incredible force for good in my life... but I also sat around a campfire one night and looked into a crying mother's eyes and told her that her son was not good enough to be a Boy Scout, or my friend. And I just can't risk my son ever learning that that is OK.
    Most of the mistakes we make in life, we are not conscious of until after they are made. I made mistakes when I was 13 that you are still making today. But it isn't too late. Please make the right decision in May. Please amend your policy of exclusion. I really want my son to be a Boy Scout, but regardless of how he turns out, if the BSA doesn't change, he won't be wearing the uniform. And that makes me incredibly sad.
    John Kinnear
    Life Scout and father of two

  8. #188
    Posting Addict LiveFreeOrDie's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2005
    Posts
    13,914

    Default

    I forgot about this debate board again by mistake. So I'm resurrecting this awesome thread.

    Hi Alissa! I missed you, too. I'm 12 weeks pregnant. Or 11.

    Did Gloria really say that gay men molest children? Gracious. I leave, and it's 1957 back here. That's awesome.
    Robin
    Mom to Cecilia and Eloisa


    "The trouble with quotes on the Internet is that you can never know if they are genuine." -Abraham Lincoln

  9. #189
    Posting Addict LiveFreeOrDie's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2005
    Posts
    13,914

    Default

    I forgot about this debate board again by mistake. So I'm resurrecting this awesome thread.

    Hi Alissa! I missed you, too. I'm 12 weeks pregnant. Or 11.

    Did Gloria really say that gay men molest children? Gracious. I leave, and it's 1957 back here. That's awesome.
    Robin
    Mom to Cecilia and Eloisa


    "The trouble with quotes on the Internet is that you can never know if they are genuine." -Abraham Lincoln

  10. #190
    Posting Addict
    Join Date
    Mar 2003
    Posts
    23,342

    Default

    Robin, congratulations!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    Laurie, mom to:
    Nathaniel ( 10 ) and Juliet ( 6 )



    Baking Adventures In A Messy Kitchen (blog)

+ Reply to Thread

Bookmarks

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
v -->

About Us | Contact Us | Privacy Policy | Sitemap | Terms & Conditions