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    Quote Originally Posted by GloriaInTX View Post
    So I wonder if they would have to change the Scout Oath too....

    Excellent point. They should have already ~ its hard to argue that being a bigot is morally correct!!!
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    Scouts is a great program because of the moral values it is based on. Someone who doesn't share those values should start their own group instead of trying to change a group that already exists.
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    No one is making them change. The scouts are initiating this change of their own accord, as they should. My husband was an Eagle scout, but we would never let our sons join unless they became tolerant of all Americans.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GloriaInTX View Post
    So I wonder if they would have to change the Scout Oath too....

    Scout Oath
    On my honor I will do my best
    To do my duty to God and my country
    To keep myself physically strong,
    ... mentally awake, and morally straight.
    and to obey the Scout Law;
    To help other people at all times;
    To keep myself physically strong,
    mentally awake, and morally straight.
    Because of "morally straight"? I don't think it's referring to sexual orientation.

    There is no conflict with this and homosexuality.
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    Quote Originally Posted by freddieflounder101 View Post
    Because of "morally straight"? I don't think it's referring to sexual orientation.

    I think that Gloria believes that being Gay is Immoral.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Potter75 View Post
    No one is making them change. The scouts are initiating this change of their own accord, as they should. My husband was an Eagle scout, but we would never let our sons join unless they became tolerant of all Americans.
    You are right no one is making them change. I'm not sure about them initiating anything though. I think all the hype is just activists trying to put media pressure on them to change again.

    NBC News reported earlier this week that BSA leaders might rescind their ban and gay/lesbian adult volunteers and scouts. If leaders take that controversial step, the churches and other organizations that sponsor Cub Scout packs and Boy Scout troops could set their own membership policies on a local-option basis.

    This would be an odd flip-flop given that the BSA just reaffirmed its anti-gay membership policy seven months ago after a two-year period of study. Why would the group’s leaders make an abrupt 180?

    National BSA leaders — mostly high-powered businessmen who volunteer their time to scouting — are scheduled to meet next week in Irving, where the scouts maintain their national HQ.

    But there is no guarantee they will rescind the ban on gay scouts and gay adult volunteers. In fact, there’s no guarantee that BSA’s leaders will even discuss the policy during three days of meetings planned next week at the organization’s national HQ in Irving.

    BSA is a tax-exempt nonprofit company and is not subject to the laws that require governmental bodies to post their meeting agendas and then allow the public to observe the proceedings.
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    I don't see a need to change it. Your morals are your own. Mine are mine. I keep morally straight to mine every day.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Potter75 View Post
    Excellent point. They should have already ~ its hard to argue that being a bigot is morally correct!!!
    While I do not care one way or the others about the boy scouts, I detest the word bigot. It is no more appropriate in my opinion to call one group of people a bigot for their beliefs than it is to call another group of people dumb looser because of theirs.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AlyssaEimers View Post
    While I do not care one way or the others about the boy scouts, I detest the word bigot. It is no more appropriate in my opinion to call one group of people a bigot for their beliefs than it is to call another group of people dumb looser because of theirs.
    Bigot: a person who is obstinately or intolerantly devoted to his or her own opinions and prejudices; especially : one who regards or treats the members of a group (as a racial or ethnic group) with hatred and intolerance.

    I'm sorry, Bonita, but if the definition fits, then I'm not going to sugar-coat my sentiments. If someone doesn't want to be called a bigot, then they should treat all other human beings with respect. The Boy Scouts are prejudiced against and intolerant of gays, that means they are bigoted. Bigot is just much more concise.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Spacers View Post
    Bigot: a person who is obstinately or intolerantly devoted to his or her own opinions and prejudices; especially : one who regards or treats the members of a group (as a racial or ethnic group) with hatred and intolerance.

    I'm sorry, Bonita, but if the definition fits, then I'm not going to sugar-coat my sentiments. If someone doesn't want to be called a bigot, then they should treat all other human beings with respect. The Boy Scouts are prejudiced against and intolerant of gays, that means they are bigoted. Bigot is just much more concise.
    "hatred and intolerance" - In my experience, the people that use the word bigot have "hatred and intolerance" toward anyone who does not share their view points on homosexuality. The word has no purpose other to shame and belittle a large group of people. The very things that you are trying to prevent, it does the opposite. It is an ugly word that has no positive or uplifting qualities.
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