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    Christian mothers call for boycott of JCPenney's Ellen DeGeneres Christmas ad | Mail Online

    For some reason it's not letting me copy and paste the article, but basically, the Conservative Christian group, One Million Moms, is calling for a boycott of JC Penny's this Christmas season because they feature Ellen in an ad, saying that featuring Ellen means that the company has "decided to try and alienate traditional families." (That quote is from the article, I don't know if it's a direct quote from OMM's.) Because she's gay.

    I say "again" because they were upset orginally that JC Penney's brought on Ellen as their spokesperson, because she's gay. I guess this just reminded them to be outraged again, or something.

    Obviously, they can boycott whoever they want. The debate question is:

    Is the very sight of Ellen DeGeneres (talking to elves no less!) alienating and offensive to American families? Will you be boycotting Penney's this holiday season?
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    The commercial itself is hardly controversial. Comedian and talk-show host Ellen DeGeneres, wearing holiday-themed gloves and hat, sits at a diner table with three of Santa's elves. She asks them to make more toys for a JC Penney contest, and ends up accidentally insulting the tiny little helpers with a bunch of clumsy short jokes.

    I know this is no small feat," DeGeneres says as the elves grimace at what they take as a height reference. "Well, it's a big deal." Finally, she changes the subject entirely: "Who wants a cookie?" But the appearance of DeGeneres, a lesbian, is controversial indeed to those belonging to One Million Moms. The group posted this update Tuesday on its website:

    "Since April, JC Penney's has not aired Ellen DeGeneres in one of their commercials until now. A new JCP ad features Ellen and three elves. JCP has made their choice to offend a huge majority of their customers again. Christians must now vote with their wallets."

    The mention of the DeGeneres ad appeared on the group's website after a warning about the Victoria's Secret fashion show and before one about Urban Outfitters selling sweaters with an expletive on them.

    Viewers of the ad on YouTube were puzzled by the group's objection.

    "THIS IS SO OFFENSIVE -- Said nobody with a brain ever," wrote one viewer.

    Wrote another, "There is nothing wrong with this. 'one million moms' (40,000 to be exact, lol) needs to relax, worry about raising their kids and not spending time & energy on hating a '30 second' holiday clip of elves and Ellen at a diner. Really?"

    Back in February, One Million Moms, which is a project of the American Family Association, asked shoppers to call JC Penney and ask that the company replace DeGeneres as a spokeswoman.
    The link to what they originally posted on their website isn't working though, so maybe they've decided that they don't care that much about Ellen in a commercial after all?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alissa_Sal View Post
    Obviously, they can boycott whoever they want. The debate question is:

    Is the very sight of Ellen DeGeneres (talking to elves no less!) alienating and offensive to American families? Will you be boycotting Penney's this holiday season?
    I think that says it all right there. It's not that the very sight of her is offensive, it is the fact that they have chosen a gay spokesperson for their company. JCPenney will have to decide if that is worth alienating a portion of their customers. I don't buy that much from JCPenney anyway since I think they are overpriced. I'm not that big into boycotts but it's possible that I might buy less from them.
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    This is just about the stupidest thing ever. I don't favour stores or products because I align myself with the hetero famous person in the ad. Like, who does that???? Dumb, and a pretty lame a$$ excuse to show such bigotry.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alissa_Sal View Post
    Is the very sight of Ellen DeGeneres (talking to elves no less!) alienating and offensive to American families?
    If a traditional family feels alienated by the sight of a lesbian then they are the ones with a serious problem. They are not alienated. It just seems they are so offended by lesbians that they can't bring themselves to shop at a store who isn't against them too. That's their problem.

    Its not like they said "LESBIANS ONLY!!!"
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    Quote Originally Posted by GloriaInTX View Post
    I think that says it all right there. It's not that the very sight of her is offensive, it is the fact that they have chosen a gay spokesperson for their company. JCPenney will have to decide if that is worth alienating a portion of their customers. I don't buy that much from JCPenney anyway since I think they are overpriced. I'm not that big into boycotts but it's possible that I might buy less from them.
    But why would the fact that their spokesperson is gay be alienating to customers? She's not talking about "gay stuff", she is joking around about elves. What does her sexual orientation matter in that context?

    But of course, they have the right to boycott anyone they want, as I already said. I don't really want to debate the boycott itself like "do they have a right to boycott" because to me, that answer is always yes. I really want to debate the attitude behind the boycott, because I don't understand it.
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    This isn't just as simple as one ad. There is a huge culture war by the media and hollywood to push the gay agenda as a normal acceptable lifestyle. This is just one example of many. Many Christians feel the need to push back whenever they have the chance.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alissa_Sal View Post
    But why would the fact that their spokesperson is gay be alienating to customers? She's not talking about "gay stuff", she is joking around about elves. What does her sexual orientation matter in that context?
    For the same reason that no one wants to put Lance Armstrong in an ad anymore, and for the same reason as almost all companies have morality clauses in their contracts for a spokesperson.
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    The so called culture war has gotten pretty intense if companies can't hire a gay person to work for them in a way that doesn't have anything to do with their sexual orientation without facing a boycott. Like, if these million moms go to their local bookstore and suspect that the clerk is gay, do they ask the manager to fire him for being gay or threaten a boycott? I just don't see how wanting someone to get fired based on them simply being gay is a reasonable response.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GloriaInTX View Post
    For the same reason that no one wants to put Lance Armstrong in an ad anymore, and for the same reason as almost all companies have morality clauses in their contracts for a spokesperson.
    I'm going to be SO glad if I ever see the day when people get the hell over themselves when it comes to gay people, and it's just as accepted as heterosexual people.

    Back to the debate topic - this would definitely not make me boycott JC Penny. I love Ellen! So does this group boycott Cover Girl, too?
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