Boycotting over Ellen (again)

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Boycotting over Ellen (again)

Christian mothers call for boycott of JCPenney's Ellen DeGeneres Christmas ad | Mail Online

For some reason it's not letting me copy and paste the article, but basically, the Conservative Christian group, One Million Moms, is calling for a boycott of JC Penny's this Christmas season because they feature Ellen in an ad, saying that featuring Ellen means that the company has "decided to try and alienate traditional families." (That quote is from the article, I don't know if it's a direct quote from OMM's.) Because she's gay.

I say "again" because they were upset orginally that JC Penney's brought on Ellen as their spokesperson, because she's gay. I guess this just reminded them to be outraged again, or something.

Obviously, they can boycott whoever they want. The debate question is:

Is the very sight of Ellen DeGeneres (talking to elves no less!) alienating and offensive to American families? Will you be boycotting Penney's this holiday season?

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The commercial itself is hardly controversial. Comedian and talk-show host Ellen DeGeneres, wearing holiday-themed gloves and hat, sits at a diner table with three of Santa's elves. She asks them to make more toys for a JC Penney contest, and ends up accidentally insulting the tiny little helpers with a bunch of clumsy short jokes.

I know this is no small feat," DeGeneres says as the elves grimace at what they take as a height reference. "Well, it's a big deal." Finally, she changes the subject entirely: "Who wants a cookie?" But the appearance of DeGeneres, a lesbian, is controversial indeed to those belonging to One Million Moms. The group posted this update Tuesday on its website:

"Since April, JC Penney's has not aired Ellen DeGeneres in one of their commercials until now. A new JCP ad features Ellen and three elves. JCP has made their choice to offend a huge majority of their customers again. Christians must now vote with their wallets."

The mention of the DeGeneres ad appeared on the group's website after a warning about the Victoria's Secret fashion show and before one about Urban Outfitters selling sweaters with an expletive on them.

Viewers of the ad on YouTube were puzzled by the group's objection.

"THIS IS SO OFFENSIVE -- Said nobody with a brain ever," wrote one viewer.

Wrote another, "There is nothing wrong with this. 'one million moms' (40,000 to be exact, lol) needs to relax, worry about raising their kids and not spending time & energy on hating a '30 second' holiday clip of elves and Ellen at a diner. Really?"

Back in February, One Million Moms, which is a project of the American Family Association, asked shoppers to call JC Penney and ask that the company replace DeGeneres as a spokeswoman.

The link to what they originally posted on their website isn't working though, so maybe they've decided that they don't care that much about Ellen in a commercial after all?

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"Alissa_Sal" wrote:

Obviously, they can boycott whoever they want. The debate question is:

Is the very sight of Ellen DeGeneres (talking to elves no less!) alienating and offensive to American families? Will you be boycotting Penney's this holiday season?

I think that says it all right there. It's not that the very sight of her is offensive, it is the fact that they have chosen a gay spokesperson for their company. JCPenney will have to decide if that is worth alienating a portion of their customers. I don't buy that much from JCPenney anyway since I think they are overpriced. I'm not that big into boycotts but it's possible that I might buy less from them.

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This is just about the stupidest thing ever. I don't favour stores or products because I align myself with the hetero famous person in the ad. Like, who does that???? Dumb, and a pretty lame a$$ excuse to show such bigotry.

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"Alissa_Sal" wrote:

Is the very sight of Ellen DeGeneres (talking to elves no less!) alienating and offensive to American families?

If a traditional family feels alienated by the sight of a lesbian then they are the ones with a serious problem. They are not alienated. It just seems they are so offended by lesbians that they can't bring themselves to shop at a store who isn't against them too. That's their problem.

Its not like they said "LESBIANS ONLY!!!"

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"GloriaInTX" wrote:

I think that says it all right there. It's not that the very sight of her is offensive, it is the fact that they have chosen a gay spokesperson for their company. JCPenney will have to decide if that is worth alienating a portion of their customers. I don't buy that much from JCPenney anyway since I think they are overpriced. I'm not that big into boycotts but it's possible that I might buy less from them.

But why would the fact that their spokesperson is gay be alienating to customers? She's not talking about "gay stuff", she is joking around about elves. What does her sexual orientation matter in that context?

But of course, they have the right to boycott anyone they want, as I already said. I don't really want to debate the boycott itself like "do they have a right to boycott" because to me, that answer is always yes. I really want to debate the attitude behind the boycott, because I don't understand it.

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This isn't just as simple as one ad. There is a huge culture war by the media and hollywood to push the gay agenda as a normal acceptable lifestyle. This is just one example of many. Many Christians feel the need to push back whenever they have the chance.

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"Alissa_Sal" wrote:

But why would the fact that their spokesperson is gay be alienating to customers? She's not talking about "gay stuff", she is joking around about elves. What does her sexual orientation matter in that context?

For the same reason that no one wants to put Lance Armstrong in an ad anymore, and for the same reason as almost all companies have morality clauses in their contracts for a spokesperson.

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The so called culture war has gotten pretty intense if companies can't hire a gay person to work for them in a way that doesn't have anything to do with their sexual orientation without facing a boycott. Like, if these million moms go to their local bookstore and suspect that the clerk is gay, do they ask the manager to fire him for being gay or threaten a boycott? I just don't see how wanting someone to get fired based on them simply being gay is a reasonable response.

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"GloriaInTX" wrote:

For the same reason that no one wants to put Lance Armstrong in an ad anymore, and for the same reason as almost all companies have morality clauses in their contracts for a spokesperson.

I'm going to be SO glad if I ever see the day when people get the hell over themselves when it comes to gay people, and it's just as accepted as heterosexual people.

Back to the debate topic - this would definitely not make me boycott JC Penny. I love Ellen! So does this group boycott Cover Girl, too?

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They aren't "promoting a gay lifestyle" by having her as their spokesperson. No child is going to say hey that lady is playing with elves...she's a lesbian! I just don't get it.

On a side note I wrote to JcPenney's after the initial outrage expressing how I don't feel this way and neither does anyone else I know and their response basically was to say they don't and do not have any intention of changing their spokesperson so these crazy ladies are out of luck.

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I do not personally watch Ellen (Or really any other daytime TV show), however even as a Conservative Christian I would will not boycott JCPenny over having her as a spokesperson. The reason is that if you were to scrutinise the lives of all of Hollywood for only extremely conservative moral people, you would have no where left to shop. I do not personally agree with the Homosexual lifestyle, but IMO, it is not different than two straight people living together before they are married. Yes Ellen is Gay and she does not hide that, but I also think she does it in a classy way.

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It is insulting to the Christians I know that groups like this claim to speak for them. This has nothing to do with being Christian. Being anti-gay is not a Christian thing and the Christians I know are appalled by statements and actions against gay people.

It's an individual anti-gay thing and it's shameful when groups appropriate Christianity for it.

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"AlyssaEimers" wrote:

I do not personally watch Ellen (Or really any other daytime TV show), however even as a Conservative Christian I would will not boycott JCPenny over having her as a spokesperson. The reason is that if you were to scrutinise the lives of all of Hollywood for only extremely conservative moral people, you would have no where left to shop.

Great point!

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I just love Ellen. Seriously. I love her. She has one of the only tv shows that is rated G. If I ever happen to be home in the afternoon, I totally turn her on bc her show is A) hilarious, Dirol kid-friendly. And I am so happy for her. Remember when she had that sitcom in the early 90's called Ellen? And then she came out on tv (on Oprah) and in the show and then they canceled it bc of all of the backlash for being "too gay". And now she has showed them. It makes me seriously so happy for her (and my gay friends.)

I totally agree with Laurie that as a Christian, I find this group embarrassing.

I'd be much more ashamed to shop at a store that treats its employees so poorly that they require state assistance for food and insurance. *THAT* is sinful IMO. Where are the conservative christians on that one?

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"GloriaInTX" wrote:

For the same reason that no one wants to put Lance Armstrong in an ad anymore, and for the same reason as almost all companies have morality clauses in their contracts for a spokesperson.

You're comparing being gay to being a habitual-liar, enhancement-drug-addicted fraud??? You're comparing being gay to having epic episodes of public drunkenness or hotel wrecking??? Seriously??? I've never heard of anyone being fired under a morality clause or having to give back Olympic medals because they came out of the closet.

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