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    I don't know. It doesn't seem to be working all that well for TExas. State rankings of high school and college graduation rates - The Business Journals

    And it seems to be hugely expensive. I wouldn't support it.

    1. Testing is expensive and costs have increased since NCLB, placing a burden on state education budgets. According to the Texas Education Agency, the state spent $9 million in 2003 to test students, while the cost to Texas taxpayers from 2009 through 2012 is projected to be around $88 million per year. [94]

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    Quote Originally Posted by Potter75 View Post
    I don't know. It doesn't seem to be working all that well for TExas. State rankings of high school and college graduation rates - The Business Journals

    And it seems to be hugely expensive. I wouldn't support it.
    Well it depends on whose numbers you use I guess. I think Texas does very well considering the large number of immigrants we get that affect the stats.

    TX High School Graduation Rates Among Highest in U.S. | The Texas Tribune

    I didn't say I support the testing. Just not sure a boycott is the way to go since I want my kids to graduate so I would rather know how they are doing on the tests before they have to take the final exit test to graduate.
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    I am very much against standardized testing, I think it measures very little beyond how well kids take that test (or how well teachers taught to it), but I wouldn't boycott only because of how it might affect my children. I would rather fight these battles in a way that doesn't affect them directly or put them in a position where they are having to deal with MY views on such things. My son is doing all the testing this week and the school's efforts to minimize the stress are having the opposite effect on many of the kids. We don't make a big deal out of it at our house so luckily Nathaniel is not bothered by it.

    But I hate those tests.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AlyssaEimers View Post
    I agree that just boycotting the test is not the answer. It could really mess up your child's chances. Here, it is law to have your child tested in certain grades (Homeschooling, public, or private). If you were very against the tests, IMO the thing to do would be to change the laws. Write your congressman, vote in the politicians that had your same POV, ect. Just skipping the test would make your child have to pay repercussions.

    Are you sure that is correct? I don't live there, so of course this information could be wrong.......please correct me/link me if this is wrong or outdated.

    Lord says the standards of No Child Left Behind have led many states to make tests easier so more students can pass. According to research Lord has done with PIPE, South Carolina's testing is the hardest, while Tennessee and Texas currently are considered the easiest.
    Another issue with state testing is which students even take the tests.
    Private school students aren't required to take TCAP or Gateway tests because private schools build curriculums differently from public schools. A proposed bill sponsored by 92nd District Rep. G.A. Hardaway sought to require private, home schooled and church-affiliated school students to submit to the same testing as public school students. The bill was defeated in committee last week, but Hardaway says his reasoning for sponsoring the bill was to get the state to examine the tests and standards.
    Hardaway says by including every student in the language of the bill, it would force everyone to discuss the testing.
    "It makes some sense to have a leveling of the playing field in what students know and don't know," Hardaway says. "They've dumbed the tests down to where a lot of them just don't make sense. They want to show improvement and proficiency, which is misleading because you've got higher test scores because you've got easier tests."
    86th District Rep. Barbara Ward Cooper, a former private and public school teacher who sits on the General Assembly's education committee, says she believes all students should be treated the same.
    "All the schools should meet the same standard," Cooper says. "Testing isn't always the best way to measure what you know. Some teachers that pass the teaching tests aren't good teachers."
    Woods says the changes should address the problems and improve what students know when they graduate from high school.
    "If you cannot apply your knowledge, you probably won't be successful in the workplace or in college," Woods says. "By revising standards and assessments, it'll move us to very real results. If you graduate with a diploma in Tennessee, we want that to mean something."
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    They may not have to take the same exact test, but they have to have standardised testing done. For homeschoolers, you can do any standardised test you want (There are several companies that you can buy them from), but it has to be done.

    - I just went and looked up the State Laws. It appears private schools might not have to do standardised testing (I do not know of any private schools that do not do the testing), but homeschoolers and public school students do by law.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AlyssaEimers View Post
    They may not have to take the same exact test, but they have to have standardised testing done. For homeschoolers, you can do any standardised test you want (There are several companies that you can buy them from), but it has to be done.

    - I just went and looked up the State Laws. It appears private schools might not have to do standardised testing (I do not know of any private schools that do not do the testing), but homeschoolers and public school students do by law.
    In Oregon we have to have a "valid current test".. Meaning they do expire.. you can only use tests from certain years.. but do not necessarily have to take this years brand new test.. I think they are 5 years.. CAT and Iowa Tests are the ones I have seen in our state.. I think now they are doing a different one at our local grade school. They have to be administered by someone that is trained by them, and not a family member.

    Each state is different - Hslda.org has the info per state

    I think PS'rs should be able to opt out.. to the point of staying current with the state hsing testing regs.. If the state doesn't require testing then your child should be able to opt out.. And I might consider a boycott valid in those states. I might consider contesting the ps if my child was in an off year according to hsing standards.

    In general though. I personally do not boycott much. I tend to follow the law and fight it in other ways, like signing petitions, contacting senators, or congressmen, voting and informing.
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    I do have to say that I would not boycott if it could negatively effect my child. At our schools (both private) the testing is not required by state for the grades they are in. Only certain grades are required by law. I think that the private schools are doing them to use a marketing tool for incoming and perspective families. I am very against putting my kid through anxiety for their marketing ability. I asked my DD3's first grade teacher how she would feel I pulled Mia next year. She said she was fine with it, we have had kids pulled before. But she did say she wants Mia to take it because she thinks Mia would enjoy it.
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    Hmmm.....my oldest daughter (2nd grade) is no stranger to stress and deals with it very well. I think it is important that our kids learn to deal with difficult situations from a young age and they can develop those coping skills naturally. We don't make an overly huge deal of standardized testing, but she knows that it is important that she do her best (and that we will be proud of her no matter the outcome). I think we sometimes don't give our kids enough credit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alana*sMommy View Post
    Hmmm.....my oldest daughter (2nd grade) is no stranger to stress and deals with it very well. I think it is important that our kids learn to deal with difficult situations from a young age and they can develop those coping skills naturally. We don't make an overly huge deal of standardized testing, but she knows that it is important that she do her best (and that we will be proud of her no matter the outcome). I think we sometimes don't give our kids enough credit.
    I am totally for teaching my kids how to deal with stress, I just dont think standardized testing is a good measure of knowledge. If it were then the stress could be worth it. I am also more concerned about how much time is spent teaching to the test before hand.
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    I hate them. Hate them so much. I'm in Mass. too and it is a negative thing for your child to not take them. Not graduating is huge so I wouldn't boycott them because it would hurt them so much.

    Right now there is a movement to push away from the MCAS I hope they are gone by the time my kids need them. I've never liked them and they've been around about 15 years I think?
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