CA paper runs cartoon depicting West, TX explosion

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CA paper runs cartoon depicting West, TX explosion

This cartoon was posted in the Sacramento Bee on the same day those in West, TX were having a memorial service to honor those who died, 10 of which were first responders. Gov. Perry has sent a letter to the editor of the newspaper asking for an apology. Do you think it was in poor taste to publish this, expecially on that day? Do you think they should apologize?

Perry blasts California newspaper for cartoon depicting Texas plant explosion | Fox News

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I think the cartoon was very much in poor taste.

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Actually, having read their reasoning behind the cartoon, I don't have an issue with them publishing it.

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I thought the cartoon was fabulous. It's called satire. Not sure if the timing was intentional or not but I don't care. The fact is that this "accident" would not have happened in California or some of the other states because we have regulations about such silly things like storage of chemical explosives and whether schools & nursing homes can be in close proximity to plants that are known to create explosive things, and we also require automated fire extinguishing systems in plants like that specifically to prevent having dozens of first responders barrelling into a burning building that has an almost certain likelihood of exploding.

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I am very surprised by the previous responses. It is never ok to make fun of a tragedy regardless of who's fault it is. The families of the people who died in this accident had nothing to do with it, and those people deserve to be remembered with respect. If you posted a picture of 9/11 in a cartoon, it would not be "fabulous" regardless of the point that was being made. Using this tragedy to make a political point on the day of the memorial is no more appropriate IMO than the people who picket military funerals as a way of protesting war.

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They're not making fun of a tragedy. They're actually expressing some outrage at how it happened in the first place.

Picketing a funeral is a pointless act, it doesn't even make sense. Using an editorial cartoon, a tradition that goes back decades, to make a statement about how bad politics & regulations resulted in a tragedy is a lot more meaningful.

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Very poor taste this close to the tragedy. A few weeks out and I feel it would be different

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If 9/11 had occurred because the officials at Boston's Logan Airport disregarded well-known safety screenings in favor of attracting cheap airlines that might fly out of neighboring airports, then I would have no problem with a satirical editorial cartoon about it. If 9/11 had occurred because the state of New York had failed to adopt high-rise airliner-bounce-off technology that had been proven useful in other terrorist attacks because they wanted to attract cheap businesses that might move to New Jersey rather than pay an airliner-bounce-off safety subsidy, then I would have no problem with a satirical editorial cartoon about it.

The issue here isn't whether people died. It's whether those people died because of stupid decisions of their state government.

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"Spacers" wrote:

If 9/11 had occurred because the officials at Boston's Logan Airport disregarded well-known safety screenings in favor of attracting cheap airlines that might fly out of neighboring airports, then I would have no problem with a satirical editorial cartoon about it. If 9/11 had occurred because the state of New York had failed to adopt high-rise airliner-bounce-off technology that had been proven useful in other terrorist attacks because they wanted to attract cheap businesses that might move to New Jersey rather than pay an airliner-bounce-off safety subsidy, then I would have no problem with a satirical editorial cartoon about it.

The issue here isn't whether people died. It's whether those people died because of stupid decisions of their state government.

So I guess you would have no problems with a cartoon depicting dead babies making fun of the Department of Health of Pennsylvania for allowing the murder of innocent childern?

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So I guess you would have no problems with a cartoon depicting dead babies making fun of the Department of Health of Pennsylvania for allowing the murder of innocent childern?

If it was done the same way with the same tone as this cartoon, I would have no issue with it. I'm guessing the people who created & published the cartoon are very angry about the terrible tragedy that happened there in Texas and believe it could have been avoided and innocent lives could have been spared.

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I felt it was in poor taste when the day of and day after the Boston attacks my FB wall was full of people posting about how "Now were they going to ban pressure cookers?" and a lot about gun rights and if a person wanted to kill someone bad enough they would. I felt that was taking advantage of a tragedy to prove a political point and that it was in poor taste. In the same way, I feel this is in poor taste. It is taking advantage of a mass loss of life to try to prove a political point.

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"AlyssaEimers" wrote:

I felt it was in poor taste when the day of and day after the Boston attacks my FB wall was full of people posting about how "Now were they going to ban pressure cookers?" and a lot about gun rights and if a person wanted to kill someone bad enough they would. I felt that was taking advantage of a tragedy to prove a political point and that it was in poor taste. In the same way, I feel this is in poor taste. It is taking advantage of a mass loss of life to try to prove a political point.

I don't think it is taking advantage. I think it BECAUSE of the loss of life that a cartoon like this went up. People are outraged and believe that this could have been avoided; there is no time more apt than after this terrible tragedy to point out how policy makers made it possible. I do not think it is making fun of or minimizing the degree of the loss of life. It is satire showing the direct connection between these policies and the very real dangers they create.

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I think the cartoon is like a parent that watches their child screw up and then goes over and says "I told you so" in a snotty voice. May make the parent feel good, but doesnt do anything to make the situation better

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Ah, yes Texas. Where they will defend the second amendment but not the first.

The very nature of political cartoons is to be offensive to someone in order to make a point. His point is valid.

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I think the cartoon is like a parent that watches their child screw up and then goes over and says "I told you so" in a snotty voice. May make the parent feel good, but doesnt do anything to make the situation better

No, that's not it at all. It's intended to force people to see that the situation could have been avoided and now, going forward, SHOULD be fixed so it doesn't happen again. It's not "I told you so," it's "Don't let this happen again."

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Yep, I'm fine with it. People are so busy looking to be outraged they miss what is really outrageous. Its wild.

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I don't remember where my DH was that night but the kids were asleep and I was alone in the front room doing some work and it was on my local news and I was furious about it right then. WTF was a nursing home doing across the street??? WTF were a bunch of firefighters even doing near that place that they *knew* would blow up when it hit a certain temperature??? And WTF was 10 times the explosive power of Timothy McVeigh's bomb that blew up the Federal Building in Oklahoma City doing in one place at one time, much less smack in the middle of town???

People should be enraged about all of that, not about an editorial cartoon pointing out the irony of the situation.

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Ah, yes Texas. Where they will defend the second amendment but not the first.

The very nature of political cartoons is to be offensive to someone in order to make a point. His point is valid.

The question was if it was in poor taste, not if it was illegal.

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"AlyssaEimers" wrote:

The question was if it was in poor taste, not if it was illegal.

Ethan winfield stated that yes, the point of political cartoons IS to be offensive. Its called satire. She is saying that he is making a good point through the offensive cartoon. That the satire, in this case, is spot on.

She didn't say anything about legality? Not sure what you mean. Clearly its legal, no one would argue with that.

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I was referring to her saying "Ah, yes Texas. Where they will defend the second amendment but not the first."

No one was saying they should not have the right to post the cartoon, but that it was in poor taste.

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This board proves that people are offended by ridiculous things every single day. Like Stacey said- the outrage on this should be directed at the idiotic decisions and regulations in Texas that allowed this tragedy to happen.

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"AlyssaEimers" wrote:

I was referring to her saying "Ah, yes Texas. Where they will defend the second amendment but not the first."

No one was saying they should not have the right to post the cartoon, but that it was in poor taste.

The governor wasn't defending the 1st amendment.

"While I will always welcome healthy policy debate, I won't stand for someone mocking the tragic deaths of my fellow Texans and our fellow Americans," Perry wrote.

Read more: Perry blasts California newspaper for cartoon depicting Texas plant explosion | Fox News

He should stand for someone exercising their first amendment rights with the same passion as he does the second.

AUSTIN, Texas (Reuters) - Texas Governor Rick Perry on Friday said a gun manufacturer that has decided to leave Connecticut should "come on down" to the Lone Star State.

PTR Industries, a maker of military-style rifles, threatened to leave Connecticut after the passage of one of the toughest gun-control laws in the United States. Connecticut enacted the measure in the wake of the Newtown school shooting that killed 20 first-graders and six adults.

"Hey, PTR," Perry posted on Twitter on Friday. "Texas is still wide open for business!! Come on down!"

The Connecticut law bans high-capacity ammunition clips of the kind used in the December school shooting and adds to the firearms covered by the state's assault-weapons ban.

A second Connecticut gun company, Stag Arms, a maker of AR-15 style rifles, is also threatening to leave the state. The companies are being wooed by officials from gun-friendlier states such as Florida and Arkansas, as well as Texas.

"We want to send a message that Texas is wide open for business, whether you're a weapons manufacturer or whether you're a tubular steel manufacturer," Perry told reporters in Austin on Friday.

"There is still a place for freedom that is very much alive and well," the Republican governor added. "That place is called Texas."

Perhaps this is in poor taste and insensitive to the families of Sandy Hook victims.

The company sold ammonium nitrate and anhydrous ammonia, both commonly used as fertilizers. It had notified state and local emergency management officials of its stock of both in its most recent declaration of hazardous chemicals, filed in February.

However, the risk management plan it filed with the federal Environmental Protection Agency in 2011 mentioned only anhydrous ammonia, which produces suffocating fumes and can cause burns if mishandled. The plan listed as a worst-case scenario "the release of the total contents of a storage tank released as a gas over 10 minutes" and did not warn of the risks of explosion.

Federal law requires any operation that holds more than a ton of fertilizer-grade ammonium nitrate to report that stock to the Department of Homeland Security. Proposed new rules would cut that to 25 pounds. But Homeland Security Secretary Janet Napolitano told a Senate subcommittee Tuesday that West Fertilizer doesn't appear to have reported its ammonium nitrate stock to federal officials, adding, "We're following up on that."

This man should be criticized. This never should have happened. The stuff is what Timothy McVeigh used. Yet the plant has gone unchecked for decades.

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I don't see it as making fun of victims. At all. It's making fun of a governor who wants businesses to come to their state because of lack of regulations and zoning and it could have prevented a lot of lives lost if they had some stricter rules and better oversight.