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    Halas was continually deceitful about her nine-month career in porn before she went to work at the school, the decision said.

    Her lawyer Richard Schwab said Halas had tried to be honest but was embarrassed by her previous experience in the adult industry.
    I would like to know more about this. I'm at the point in my career where I wouldn't list all of my previous jobs on an application. What exactly is meant by "deceitful"?

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    I have read that when questioned by the school about her past once it was found out in March she lied and under oath.

    Melissa~It also said that she went by Tiffany Six. I'm wondering if she thought her real name wouldn't come out?

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    I really like this articles take on it. It is very ironic that we all "get over it" with some of these well known sinners.....but since this lady is a nobody she is doomed. It does seem so unfair.

    It was an embarrassing few minutes. The exposure was regrettable. The angle was bad. The dialogue was unrealistic. And it’s going to be on the Internet forever.
    Never mind that it was years ago. It still comes right up when you Google it. Every so often, in moments of weakness, I allow myself to view it in its entirety, crying softly — although not at the office, of course.
    By now you have surely guessed what I am talking about: Not the porn career of California teacher Stacie Halas, also known as “Tiffany Six.” Of course not. I meant former South Carolina governor Mark Sanford’s infamous rambling press conference in which he confessed to an affair, admitted to “crying in Argentina” and spoke bewilderingly of his struggle against self and thanked “the Tom Davises of this world.” As embarrassing videos posted on the Internet go, he has Kim Kardashian beat by several leagues.
    Both Halas and Sanford are now making efforts to move past their pasts. And I regret to note that it seems to be working much better for him.
    Mark Sanford is making a run for Congress in his former South Carolina district. And people seem to think this is a viable plan. “Hey,” they say. “Name recognition!” These are the same people who seem to think Anthony Weiner is an exciting mayoral prospect. Meanwhile, Halas tried to reinvent herself as a middle school science teacher, after a brief career in which she did not break up her family or mislead taxpayers. And she’s still out of a job.
    “There are no second acts in American lives,” F. Scott Fitzgerald said. Well, unless you’re in politics.
    In most lines of work, past indiscretions can be something of a hindrance. Leave an embarrassing video somewhere in the bowels of the Internet? Forget teaching middle school. Halas was fired in April from her post as a science teacher after students and faculty at the Haydock Intermediate School in Oxnard, Calif., discovered some of her videos online. And Friday the California Commission on Professional Competence (in a unanimous 46-page decision) ruled that she should stay out of the classroom. The situation was not helped by her efforts to conceal her past from her employers. The ruling called this more evidence of mendacity and further proof that she was no role model, although I have difficulty picturing a scenario in which you make no effort to conceal the fact that you used to appear in pornographic videos and someone hires you on the spot to teach middle school.
    Perhaps that someone has a point. Middle schoolers are a uniquely cruel bunch. But if you are willing to walk into a classroom and teach them science, with the knowledge that this kind of video is lurking over your head on the Internet suspended by a tiny thread — well, this country does need math and science teachers…But the commission felt otherwise. There are no second chances in middle school science.
    Back in the olden days, you always vaguely suspected that the librarian had a sordid past, but you could not quite prove it. What harm did it do? It did not impair her grasp of the Dewey Decimal System.
    But not now. Lady Bracknell’s salad days as a can-can dancer are searchable. Don’t think of changing your legal name, James Gatz. Forget adopting that child with your prison record, Jean Valjean. There are no second acts in lives lived half online.
    Celebrities can get away with these things. And even politicians, to a certain extent, can ride the wave of notoriety — at least as far as Eliot Spitzer’s talk show.
    But what about the rest of us?
    I kept assuming that we were about to hit the point where the saturation was complete, where, animated by the knowledge that there is no one alive whose college photos, if broadcast, would not fill the world with shock and horror, we would stop pulling the Gasp!-Behold-Hester-Prynne!-Someone-Stick-A-Giant-’A'-On-That-Lady! act and start accepting that we are all flawed, change is possible, and some allowances must be made. But we have not. We keep pointing. We keep thinking we are safe.
    After all, some people are. In school we all knew that one guy Greg who kept a turtle, woke up early, read improving books, and never went out on Thursdays. But do we really want Gregs in charge of everything?
    The judge in the porn star teacher’s case noted that the Internet is “viral” and “infinite”which is a gloomy way of looking at it. There are no comebacks. It is a giant bathroom wall where every scrawl will live forever. If you write big enough you can perhaps write over it. Look at Bill Clinton. But woe to you if that’s the only thing that’s up there. Rick Santorum had to mount a whole presidential campaign to fix his “Google problem.” The only way to induce people to forget is to make even more noise.
    If Sanford and Halas’s respective plights demonstrate anything, it is the fact that It is not on the heads of celebrities or even political figures that the ax usually falls. If you are Ann Coulter and you say something deplorable, they book you on cable for more of the same. If you are an ordinary person, you get included in a list of Hideous Racists and lose your job at Coldstone Creamery.
    No, it is clear that the artist formerly known as Tiffany Six is in the wrong line of work. Pornography is a poor choice for a first career. You can’t engage in congress on camera and try to engage in anything else afterwards, except to become one of those Famous Celebrities Everyone Dislikes.
    Perhaps she should run for office instead. It could hardly make things worse. It might be her only hope.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Potter75 View Post
    I really like this articles take on it. It is very ironic that we all "get over it" with some of these well known sinners.....but since this lady is a nobody she is doomed. It does seem so unfair.

    Teachers sign contracts that have a "morals clause" in them. Making porn and having it posted all over the internet isn't exactly showing you have morals.

    I do think there is more to this though. If they had done a proper background check (especially in CA) they would have found this when she applied for the job.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sapphire Sunsets View Post
    Teachers sign contracts that have a "morals clause" in them. Making porn and having it posted all over the internet isn't exactly showing you have morals.

    I do think there is more to this though. If they had done a proper background check (especially in CA) they would have found this when she applied for the job.
    Can you provide a link to an example of the morals clause CA teachers sign? I can't find any information saying you are right about that, so I'd like proof. Also, are the contracts retroactive and do they cover the time before a person became a teacher? She did this porn years ago when she wasn't contractually bound by anything. It appears that she had been honoring this "morality clause" you think she signed as she was not doing porn currently.

    There are over 300,000 public school teachers in CA. Is having an extramarital affair against their "morality clause" because clearly that action would show that they have no morals (in your view, to use your words), I bet we ALL agree on that one. Do all teachers who have (or HAVE had) affairs get automatically fired? What about smokers? To some smoking is immoral. Some people think that women who don't cover their head, or who wear, say, shorts are immoral. I have several friends who used to teach who lived with their fiance before they were married ~ should they have been fired for living with a man out of wedlock? Would the more religious amongst us have the right to petition for the firing of a teacher due to their moral beliefs . How about if you had a DUI 8 years ago? Too immoral? A teacher goes on Vacation in Jamaica and smokes some weed, too immoral to teach?

    I don't really believe that this teacher signed a morality clause. I bet in private schools you see this more, where people all have one idea of what "moral" means...............I just find it really hard to believe that this woman, a public school teacher, signed a clause in her contract that meant she was going to conform to some vague idea of morality, AND that it worked retroactively, covering every decision she had ever made prior to getting hired.

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    I dont know anything about CA, but here we have a 'code of conduct', and it is linked to our teachers certification, not our job. However, if you lose your certification you lose your job Maybe she is thinking of something more like this? As far as I know it is not retroactive thought, it starts when you are certified (could be wrong about that, never had to worry about it so have never looked into it).

    They do perform a background check (again with certification), but I'm not sure something like this would come up. Especially if she was payed under the table, or by a company that 'sounded' reputable. They might be able to get the name of the company, but it would be up to them to do the research on what the company actually did, and they do hundreds of these checks a year. It certainly wouldn't come up on a criminal check because it's not illegal.

    I also dont think she had an obligation to disclose this herself. As someone else pointed out, I dont put my waitressing experience on my teaching resume, or the other way around. I only put what is relevant, and as long as this was not common knowledge it was not relevant to her teaching ability. I do think that if she had been up front about it when asked though, the school board should have an obligation to try to find a way to help her keep her job. But since she lied when directly asked she created a situation where they were forced to fire her. I understand why she did, and I feel sorry for her, but I do think this impairs her ability to teach these kids and that is what matters most to me in the school system.
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    Yeah I'm frustrated the more i think about this. I don't think she should lose her job for the fact that she has been in any pornos in the past. I feel like it was justified because it had caused a disruption that i don't see fixable.

    However at the same time, i don't want school communities to think that they can just cause an uproar about something to get someone fired if they want to.

    And then I wonder how much of a disruption it would end up being. Is it temporary? Just as this whole story came out? Would people 5 years from now still be causing a disruption over it? I don't know.

    I guess i don't know what the answer is. I think the whole thing really sucks.

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    Kim apparently NO parents went to the meeting about this. So I think that the "outrage" was all about other teachers/admin, not parents.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Potter75 View Post
    Kim apparently NO parents went to the meeting about this. So I think that the "outrage" was all about other teachers/admin, not parents.
    Hmm, well thats even more bothersome then.
    ETA: For clarity, bothersome that the disruption seems to be internally induced. I should really proof read before I post *sigh*

    As for the kids, I wonder how long the novelty of the situation would last.
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    If a teacher can not be fired for lying to her bosses, what then do you feel is a justifiable reason to be fired?

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