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    Socialism Viewed Positively by 36% of Americans

    I also do not believe this board reflects the percentage of what most Americans believe. If you were to talk about Socialism in many places around here it would be treated like a four letter word.

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    Bonita, if you have private insurance you pay for it too....by increased premiums.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mom2robbie View Post
    Gloria, that is in Florida, last time I checked Florida is not a Canadian province as much as some Canadians would like. The most equipment that can be used in nursing homes in Canada is an IV.
    Then maybe they should. Seems a little much to keep a coma patient or someone like that in a hospital. What do they do with coma patients that aren't brain dead? Do they keep them in the hospital the whole time?
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    Quote Originally Posted by GloriaInTX View Post
    Then maybe they should. Seems a little much to keep a coma patient or someone like that in a hospital. What do they do with coma patients that aren't brain dead? Do they keep them in the hospital the whole time?
    Yes they do. Nursing homes generally only have 1 registered nurse for each floor at any one time, a couple nursing assistants (RNA) and lots of Health Care Aids. Health Care Aids do stuff like feedings, bathing, personal care. And in case you are wondering this information is coming from friends and family who work in nursing homes. There is also a doctor on call for any medical ailments.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AlyssaEimers View Post
    This a big reason that health insurance should be private.
    Why? So those who can afford the best coverage can queue jump? I don't think so. And that, IMO, is exactly where US health care has failed, big time. You think it's bad now? Just wait until those who can afford the best plans get treatment first, get to the head of the line, etc. Besides, no private plan in the world will cover a $1 milllion per year tab for life support. I have never even seen 'life support' equipment and services included in a health plan. That's because our PUBLIC system pays for it. It is only when it is deemed that the patient is brain dead and only being kept alive artificially with no hope of improvement that the onus for payment falls to the family. You can't compare a micro preemie to that situation. A micro preemie has the definite possibility of beating the odds, but needs help to breath and maintain temperature, heart rate etc while they gain the strength to do that on their own.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mom2robbie View Post
    Yes they do. Nursing homes generally only have 1 registered nurse for each floor at any one time, a couple nursing assistants (RNA) and lots of Health Care Aids. Health Care Aids do stuff like feedings, bathing, personal care. And in case you are wondering this information is coming from friends and family who work in nursing homes. There is also a doctor on call for any medical ailments.
    It is different here. My mother is a nurse in a nursing home and there are many patients that are there for more than just to die.
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    Why? So those who can afford the best coverage can queue jump? I don't think so. And that, IMO, is exactly where US health care has failed, big time. You think it's bad now? Just wait until those who can afford the best plans get treatment first, get to the head of the line, etc. Besides, no private plan in the world will cover a $1 milllion per year tab for life support. I have never even seen 'life support' equipment and services included in a health plan. That's because our PUBLIC system pays for it. It is only when it is deemed that the patient is brain dead and only being kept alive artificially with no hope of improvement that the onus for payment falls to the family. You can't compare a micro preemie to that situation. A micro preemie has the definite possibility of beating the odds, but needs help to breath and maintain temperature, heart rate etc while they gain the strength to do that on their own.
    I am not sure how to go back and find it, but there has been on this very board people that have said that money should not be spent on micro preemies. Babies that are born at 24, 24, or 26 weeks and need months of care.

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    On that with NHCR, you pay a penalty if you have a "cadillac" plan.

    It's typically not a service that is ridered into a set plan. I've never seen it at least on our fully insured plans.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AlyssaEimers View Post
    It is different here. My mother is a nurse in a nursing home and there are many patients that are there for more than just to die.
    Nursing homes are not just a place to go to die. There are adults of all ages that need some form of assisted living. My mom was in her nursing home for 4.5 years before she finally passed and we had to pay to have her there, it was a sliding scale depending on her Canada Pension Plan. My dad was actually in palliative care in a hospital when he was dying of colon cancer. They kept him comfortable until the end, there was an extra bed in his room and we (my siblings and I) would stay overnight with him. It was my oldest sister that was there when he passed away.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AlyssaEimers View Post
    Socialism Viewed Positively by 36% of Americans

    I also do not believe this board reflects the percentage of what most Americans believe. If you were to talk about Socialism in many places around here it would be treated like a four letter word.
    I bet most of them like like their public police force and fire fighters and public schools and non-toll roads just fine. (To name a few of the horrors of socialism.)

    I think I've mentioned this before, but my aunt who is the biggest opponent to "SOCIALISM!!!!!" on my FB page works for the sheriff's department. Taxes literally pay her paycheck. Hilarious.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AlyssaEimers View Post
    It is different here. My mother is a nurse in a nursing home and there are many patients that are there for more than just to die.


    I am not sure how to go back and find it, but there has been on this very board people that have said that money should not be spent on micro preemies. Babies that are born at 24, 24, or 26 weeks and need months of care.
    Probably the same people who are against public health care.
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