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    Quote Originally Posted by ClairesMommy View Post
    I got frostbite once when I tried to start my car without my gloves on. Seriously. The ignition was frozen solid, as was the engine. Part of my finger turned purple and I lost feeling in it. Ask most Canadians if they have a block heater in their car and the answer will be a resounding hell ya.
    Funny story about that when I went from Montana to Texas to go to college my car had a heater in it and when some of my friends asked why there was a plug hanging out of the car I told them it was an electric car. Had them believing me for awhile. When I tell people down here that up there we plug our cars in at night they look at you like you are crazy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ftmom View Post
    The bolded is what I have an issue with in everything you have said, and it is that attitude that gets to me in debates on this. Although it is more convenient to leave the jackets on, that is not my main reason for doing so. When you live where I do the cold can kill. Not only does it freeze skin, but it can shut down a body, especially a little one, in a very short period of time. I have chosen to not risk this with my children. Sure I can warm the car up before we go anywhere, but in the event of an accident, I refuse to rely on a blanket, or backwards jacket to stay on my child and keep them warm enough. For me, a jacket is very much a safety consideration, and a very important one at that. While for you it may be a black and white 'jacket off safe, jacket on not safe', for me it is more about playing the odds and weighing one type of safety against another. I suspect if you move to Alaska it will not be such an easy choice for you either, though you may still choose to remove coats.
    This is what I was thinking as well. I do not have any statistics, but I would think you would have a greater chance of dying from freezing to death, than of your car seat malfunctioning due to wearing a coat. Here in TN, not a big deal at all to go without a coat and just have a blanket. In NY right on Lake Erie, you could freeze to death in a short amount of time. What if you run out of gas or get stuck in a long traffic jam? It is no safer to leave a child in a car (with or without you) in a freezing car than it would be to leave a child in a car on a hot day. Both are deadly.

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    If you stop the vehicle (wreck/gas), you take them out of the straps and put the coat back on. That's what we did and wonder of all wonder; it worked.

    Here's the stats.

    Death among children and adolescents: MedlinePlus Medical Encyclopedia

    Were any of the other people on the take em off side in the facebook debate not from your area?

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    Sure, in a fender bender that works. I am thinking of a more serious accident, where the adults in the car are not able to help the child. Also, you should not remove a child from their seat in a bad wreck, but wait and let a paramedic do it if you can. The seat will help to immobilize their back in case of spinal injury. I dont think anyone in the debate was from my immediate area. It was on a nursing support board. I'm not sure I know anyone who takes them off who live near me. At least no one I have asked in the last week or so.

    Those stats only tell that most kids die from accidents. I would love to see stats about kids injured or killed because they were wearing a jacket in a car seat. Truth is, we dont even know how dangerous it really is, just that the testing has not been done. Now I am not saying that makes it safe. As I said before, I do make a judgement call, and take the jackets off when we are going to be driving at highway speeds, and the kids only wear their jackets around town, although, even in the course of this debate I am starting to question myself about taking the jackets off, as at highway speeds is where we are most likely to have a more serious accident, which is why I make them take the jackets off so their seats are more effective. Like I said, it is more of a weighing one danger against another for me and one of those subjects that I am constantly second guessing myself on, which is maybe why these debates bother me. I can truly see it from both sides.....I just dont think it is a black and white issue.
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    When I'm home, I'm going to find the youtube video of what happens when the harness is too loose. I know I'm not going to change people's minds, but if it comes to taking a chance my child *may* be in an accident so severe that we shouldn't remove him from the car, I'd like the option of doing so instead of searching for him because he slid out of the straps because the coat won't help him if it stays in the seat and the kid doesn't. So it really is black and white to me. There is very very very little gray area and all of it involves a trip to the emergency room wiht not enough time to take my kid out of his coat after he was already in it when the er situation began.

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