Care providers' responsibility?

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Care providers' responsibility?

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2012/01/07/minnesota-dad-gets-dwi-after-picking-kids-up-at-day-care/?test=latestnews

Would you expect a child care provider to let children go home with someone who was visibly impaired?

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"wlillie" wrote:

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2012/01/07/minnesota-dad-gets-dwi-after-picking-kids-up-at-day-care/?test=latestnews

Would you expect a child care provider to let children go home with someone who was visibly impaired?

Of course not, legally or morallly. But I have no reason to assume that thats what happened here. Random places are probably bars, or liquor stores. I'd bet he had his shoes on when he picked up the kids, and alcoholics can function (meaning appear to function, though intoxicated) at high BAC levels.

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I would certainly hope they wouldn't hand children over to someone obviously impaired. But, like Melissa, I'm going to give the daycare person the benefit of the doubt and assume circumstances changed between daycare and police. I only read through the article quickly, did it say how much time had passed?

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I would completely expect my daycare provider to deny my children leaving with any person impaired. It sounds to me, in this case, that the Dad picked up the children and then went to the bar to drink (per the son, he stopped at "random" places). So when he picked them up from daycare, it's most likely he wasn't impaired or at least not enough for a provider to notice.

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I agree. When I drop off and pick up my 8 YO from daycare or school the adults speak to me briefly. Not enough to judge whether I should be driving or not.

When I worked at a daycare, it wasn't uncommon for the older (4 - 5 YO) children to see their parent and run to them. We weren't in close enough proximity to smell them for alcohol.

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I was just thinking in general and the thought popped up because I don't know of anyone who could get wasted between 5:15 and 6:30 which is my initial thought. You'd have to be screwed up to begin with (if not visibly at least mentally) to stop at bars and get drunk while caring for your two children.

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He's clearly in the grips of addiction. If that is what you mean by screwed up, surely he is. I know people who could get wasted in five minutes. An alcoholic at work, especially one working on a minimally functioning liver is a sight to see, thats for sure.

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"wlillie" wrote:

I was just thinking in general and the thought popped up because I don't know of anyone who could get wasted between 5:15 and 6:30 which is my initial thought.

You could if you drank enough in that 75 minutes, or if your liver was damaged from prior abuse & couldn't metabolize the alcohol at the norml rate. My granddad, at the end, would be falling down drunk in less than half an hour on only a couple of ounces of vodka.

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A lot of daycares don't really pay that much attention. My boys went to day care for about a two years, and when I picked them up this was the drill: enter my code to open the front enterance door, wave hello to whatever lady was sitting at the front office, go to my boys' respective classroom doors, wave at the teacher as the boys ran over to me, and leave. I didn't necessarily have to even speak to anyone, so I could see how a drunken father could certainly pick up his children without anyone noticing his demeanor. Not that I ever picked them up without talking to someone, but some parents might. Now, if they had noticed that he was under the influence of something (or even smelled like he was) I would certainly hope that they wouldn't allow the child/ren to get into a vehicle with said person, and that they would call whoever was the emergency contact person for the child.

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Well he could have been above the legal limit when he got there and picked up the kids.. I couldn't find the time he did that.. Then downed a bottle of 120 proof something and easily been messed up an hour or so later.