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    The American Civil Liberties Union wants Durango’s Mercy Regional Medical Center to end its policy regarding anti-abortion practices because, the ACLU said, the policy violates state and federal laws.

    In a letter sent Wednesday to the state, the ACLU charged that Mercy disciplined a doctor for suggesting a patient’s condition might be fatal if she chose to continue her pregnancy.

    ACLU lawyer Sara Rich sent the letter to the Colorado Department of Public Health and Environment asking for an investigation of Mercy’s policy against recommending abortions for women with life-threatening conditions.

    Mercy is owned by Catholic Health Initiatives, and it follows the Ethical and Religious Directives for health care adopted by the U.S. Conference of Catholic Bishops. The directives include a ban on associating with abortion providers.

    “Mercy Regional’s moral objection to abortion does not exempt the hospital from complying with the laws ... and the hospital cannot invoke its religious status to jeopardize the health and lives of pregnant women seeking medical care,” Rich wrote in her letter.

    Mercy spokesman David Bruzzese said the hospital is aware of the ACLU’s complaint and is following up directly with the Colorado Department of Public Health and Environment.

    “We feel the statements made in the complaint are based on inaccurate information and look forward to resolving the issue directly with CDPHE,” Bruzzese wrote in a prepared statement.
    Mercy is a faith-based hospital, and its employees are committed to carrying out its mission and ministry “in a manner that is consistent with our religious and ethical directives,” he said.

    He added: “We take very seriously the care we provide to our patients. Those patients and our physicians are free to use all information in the medical literature to make appropriate medical decisions.”

    The dispute began in early 2012, when Dr. Michael Demos, a Mercy cardiologist, examined a pregnant woman referred to him because of her family history of Marfan syndrome, a disorder of the connective tissue that can cause the aorta to rupture during pregnancy. For women with severe cases of Marfan, pregnancy often is fatal.

    After an initial examination, according to the letter, Demos told the patient that if her aorta was enlarged past a certain point, medical guidelines would recommend ending the pregnancy.

    Further tests revealed the unnamed woman did not have Marfan syndrome, and she gave birth successfully. But more than a year later, she complained to hospital leadership that Demos recommended abortion if she was diagnosed with Marfan syndrome, according to the ACLU’s complaint letter.

    Dr. Kip Boyd, Mercy’s chief medical officer, admonished Demos and told him he is not permitted to recommend or even discuss abortion with a Mercy patient regardless of the circumstances, according to the ACLU’s letter.

    Mercy declined to comment about specific allegations, saying again that the hospital planned to work directly with the CDPHE regarding the matter. The hospital also declined to release its directive or policy as it relates to abortion and recommending abortion.

    When reached Wednesday night at home, Demos said he has lived in Durango since 2005 and has a vested interest in the community, its people and the hospital.

    “Anything that happens is not because of nefarious purposes on my part,” he said. “I want this to be the best hospital it can be, and I want it to thrive.”

    The policy, as communicated by Boyd, encumbers doctors from practicing medicine the way it’s supposed to be, at least in this case, Demos said.

    “I would like to be able to practice medicine unencumbered by a policy that I don’t consider appropriate or lawful,” Demos said.

    He questioned whether Boyd made a mistake in interpreting the policy, imposed his own sensibility in the matter or correctly relayed the policy as it exists.

    Demos said he’s not a crusader; rather, he’s trying to do the best job he can. It’s early in the process, he said.

    “I had a little visit from the administration today,” he said. “It was very amicable, very nice.”

    In her letter to the state health department, ACLU lawyer Rich quotes two letters Boyd sent to the patient – one on April 23 and another June 17. In the April letter, Boyd promised to “provide education to all our employed providers, reminding them that they should not recommend abortion – even to patients who may have serious illnesses.”

    Colorado law forbids hospitals from exercising control over a doctor’s professional judgment, and from interfering with a doctor’s ethical and moral responsibility to his or her patient. The ACLU also contends that Mercy’s policy runs afoul of federal rules that patients be fully informed about their care.

    “By prohibiting physicians from informing patients of all alternative treatment options, Mercy Regional’s policy violates state and federal law and poses a potential threat to the health, safety and even the lives of Mercy Regional patients,” said Mark Silverstein, ACLU Colorado’s legal director, in a news release.

    The ACLU wants the policy to be investigated and measures taken to “ensure that Mercy Regional medical providers are not forced to choose between employer directives and their own professional, ethical and moral obligations,” and also to ensure Durango patients are not denied “complete access to medical information because of the religious-based dictates of the hospital.”

    Catholic hospitals have been at the center of controversy regarding mandates in the new federal health-insurance law that employers provide policies that include birth control – something the Catholic Ethical and Religious Directives also forbids.

    Catholic Health Initiatives runs several hospitals in Colorado, including St. Mary-Corwin in Pueblo, St. Thomas More in Ca?on City, Penrose in Colorado Springs and several St. Anthony’s locations in metro Denver.

    All are governed by guidelines set by church leadership.

    According to the Ethical and Religious Directives, “Catholic health care institutions are not to provide abortion services, even based upon the principle of material cooperation. In this context, Catholic health care institutions need to be concerned about the danger of scandal in any association with abortion providers.”

    However, the ACLU complaint is directed specifically at Mercy, not at changing policies at all Colorado Catholic hospitals, Silverstein said in an email.

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    Should a Catholic hospital be able to "gag" its doctors from discussing abortion as an option to save a pregnant woman's life? This doctor's patient, who had a family history of a disorder that routinely kills pregnant women, complained that he told her an abortion was one of her options if it turned out that she did, indeed, have that disorder. The doctor was reprimanded for it.
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    I edited the OP because I found a different article that explains the issue more clearly, and it also states that Colorado law prohibits this. Even so, it seems that the hospital is doing it. So sad. The Catholic Church needs to get out of health care, or keep its religious views out of the health care it provides to others. I can't even imagine having to wonder if my doctor is withholding pertinent information about *MY* medical condition from me for fear of violating an edict from a freaking church.
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    If you dont like the Catholic stance on Abortion dont go to a Catholic hospital.
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    In many areas, Catholic hospitals are the only option. Are you saying that Jewish people and atheists should just, what, die rather than go to their local hospital? What a choice....

    They are also sometimes the only allowable option due to insurance contracts. Someone else's faith should not impact my medical care. And it's not even a someone, it's a ****ing corporation! Corporations can't have faith.
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    Yes, a nearby city only has one hospital and is Catholic. If this were to happen there and it was an actual emergency that patient is a good 30 minutes to a non Catholic hospital.

    Although, as pro choice as I am, I have to say I am taken aback by what was written in the article. It's written as if the doctor said that because of her potential diagnosis, that if a certain point was reached, he would suggest termination. I feel like I would rather it would be presented to me as "if you reach a certain point, your pregnancy could kill you" and allow me to ask for options. It could have been just how the wrote that but it rubbed me the wrong way.
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    It seems a little early to be recommending an abortion to a woman who has not even been diagnosed with the problem yet. If it has been me I think I would have been a little upset about it too. She probably spent a lot of time agonizing over what he said when it wasn't even something she needed to worry about.
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    Where are you getting that he recommended an abortion at that point. He said *if* she has this condition and *if* her aorta enlarged, THEN an abortion would be recommended because aortic rupture kills 90% of the women who experience it. I think especially during pregnancy the best thing is always to have information right up front rather than not being told what *all* of my options are given the different potential diagnoses.
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    "After an initial examination, according to the letter, Demos told the patient that if her aorta was enlarged past a certain point, medical guidelines would recommend ending the pregnancy."

    I said that I think it was just how the article was written but as I read it it sounds like the suggested an abortion to her and I don't agree with that. I think abortion is something that the woman absolutely has to initiate and decide on. Not be led to.

    As I said before, I think the better way was to say...if your aorta was to enlarge to this point, you are at risk of death. Then let her request how she wants to proceed.
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    Really???? You'd rather a pregnant woman be told that her pregnancy is going to kill her. PERIOD. Leave it at that. Let her figure out what questions to ask about it??? Damn, I'm sure glad you'll never be my doctor. What a horrible thing to do to somebody, and especially someone who is pregnant. Wow. I guess I have more compassion for a pregnant woman facing a horrible diagnosis and a horrible decision to make. I'd let her know right off the bat that there *is* hope for her.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mom3girls View Post
    If you dont like the Catholic stance on Abortion dont go to a Catholic hospital.
    If Catholic corporations can't offer all health care, they should not be in the hospital business.
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