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    Do you support the Chicago teachers strike?

    Today, the 26,000 members of the Chicago Teachers Union are on strike because they can't accept a 16% raise over four years, tougher testing and accountability standards, and non-automatic rehiring.

    Once again, the Chicago Teachers Union is showing its true colors: self-serving public sector bullies more interested in their well-being than the well-being of students.

    Consider that public school teachers in Chicago make an average of $71,000 a year, while a majority of the roughly 350,000 public school students, overwhelmingly minority students, receive free or discounted school meals, meaning they are at or near the poverty line.

    What do these well-paid teachers bestow on the poor children and families of Chicago? Nearly 80% of eighth-graders in Chicago public schools are not proficient in reading or math, according to the U.S. Department of Education.

    In fact, little has improved in Chicago since the 1987 strike. Neil Steinberg of the Chicago Sun-Times points out that "In 1987, 43% of incoming Chicago freshmen would drop out of high school without graduating. Today's drop-out rate is 39.4%, the lowest it has ever been."

    A dropout rate of nearly four students in 10 is a national disgrace. For 25 years, Chicago's teachers' unions have held the city's parents and students hostage while morally and financially bankrupting the city. Chicago public schools are $665 million in debt, and that debt is expected to exceed $1 billion next year. For 25 years, the union has blocked and impeded educational progress. The time for change is long overdue.

    For decades, conservative education reformers like myself have been pushing for performance pay, strict accountability, flexible rehiring practices for school principals and longer school days to improve our public schools. Now, Chicago Mayor Rahm Emanuel and Secretary of Education Arne Duncan, through the Race to the Top grant requirements, are trying to implement similar measures in Chicago's public schools. Duncan, whom I sometimes agree with, and Emanuel, whom I almost never agree with, both seem to be taking the traditionally conservative side of this issue.
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    I don't know how public servants like teachers got to be the bad guys. I know a lot of teachers. I'm married to one. I know the depth of their commitment to their students. Teaching isn't like other professions - the more experience and training a teacher has, the better teacher they are likely to be, but they are also more expensive which, in times where districts cut schools' budgets over and over and over again would make the most experienced and most educated teachers the most vulnerable if not for the unions that ensure that experienced (read: expensive) teachers cannot be dismissed without good cause.

    The testing has created an enviornment where teachers are expected to "teach to the test" with no data that shows that high test scores correlate to applicable knowlege and real learning; the point of teaching should be less about rote memorization of easily forgotten facts, and more about the process of how to learn, how to research, how to think. The other fall out from the testing is that the poorest schools that are in most dire need of better resources (updated books, well trained teachers, updated facilities) are at the largest risk of losing yet more funding.

    In the midst of all of this, rather than looking at ways we actually can improve our public schools, conservatives are pushing to further defund schools and divert money towards private schools in a very thinly veiled attempt to get the American tax payers to fund religious education.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alissa_Sal View Post
    Teaching isn't like other professions - the more experience and training a teacher has, the better teacher they are likely to be, but they are also more expensive which, in times where districts cut schools' budgets over and over and over again would make the most experienced and most educated teachers the most vulnerable if not for the unions that ensure that experienced (read: expensive) teachers cannot be dismissed without good cause.
    If that is the case then I would think that good teachers would welcome evaluations to determine who are the good teachers instead of just how long you have been on the job.

    Illinois lawmakers voted in 2010 to require that all public schools use student achievement as a component of teacher evaluations by the 2016-17 school year. In Chicago, Emanuel is living up to a promise made during his inauguration speech by demanding the Chicago Teachers Union agree to make the change years ahead of that schedule.

    "As some have noted, including (his wife) Amy, I am not a patient man," Emanuel said after he was sworn in as mayor a year ago. "When it comes to improving our schools, I will not be a patient mayor."

    The issue of teacher evaluations has only been on the table in Chicago for a few months, and Emanuel acknowledged this week that his swift push for change could be a factor in why his relationship with the union has been so contentious. In other big cities, a more patient approach has led to success in finding agreement with reluctant teachers.

    The deal reached Wednesday in Boston will allow administrators to rely more heavily on student achievement in crafting teacher evaluations and remove from the classroom those receiving poor evaluations within 30 days. That contract came after 400 hours of contract negotiations that spanned more than 50 separate sessions over two years.

    "Change is hard and is often hard-fought. But we should make special note that through all the tough negotiations, neither side let their frustrations spill onto the students of the Boston Public Schools," said Mayor Thomas Menino. "I tell you, this is a contract that's great for our students, works for our teachers and it's fair to our taxpayers."

    Slowing down the timeline for implementing the use of student performance in evaluations has also led to success elsewhere. Chicago's current offer to teachers includes not counting the new evaluations for a year as any kinks in the process are worked out. In Cleveland, the city's school district made its deal with teachers by agreeing to a loose framework for the new evaluations that would take four years to implement. The school system and the union spent a year constructing the evaluations, and then began a two-year pilot process that will not incorporate student test scores. That will come for the first time in the 2013-14 school year.

    "This is complex work and it takes time to build it thoughtfully and carefully," said Cleveland schools CEO Eric Gordon. "It really has been a joint commitment in the beginning. We all believe that this is the right (approach)."
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    Quote Originally Posted by GloriaInTX View Post
    If that is the case then I would think that good teachers would welcome evaluations to determine who are the good teachers instead of just how long you have been on the job.
    My second paragraph deals with that. The tests that are out today don't measure learning in any meaningful way, they measure rote memorization, which is not the same as true learning. Again, true learning has a lot more to do with learning the process of gaining knowlege than it does simple memorization of facts which can be easily forgotten again after the test. Great teachers should not be teaching to the test, they should be teaching the process of learning; that is a true quality education. I don't think teachers are opposed to assessments, they are opposed to inaccurate methods that don't paint a true picture of a child's actual learning and exert undue influence on the amount of time that children are spending studying for test questions instead of focusing on real applicable knowledge.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alissa_Sal View Post
    My second paragraph deals with that. The tests that are out today don't measure learning in any meaningful way, they measure rote memorization, which is not the same as true learning. Again, true learning has a lot more to do with learning the process of gaining knowlege than it does simple memorization of facts which can be easily forgotten again after the test. Great teachers should not be teaching to the test, they should be teaching the process of learning; that is a true quality education. I don't think teachers are opposed to assessments, they are opposed to inaccurate methods that don't paint a true picture of a child's actual learning and exert undue influence on the amount of time that children are spending studying for test questions instead of focusing on real applicable knowledge.
    There is more to an evaluation than just how well students do on a test. There should also be more to it than just the amount of years spent on the job. The teachers in Chicago want no evaluation at all, even though their salaries and benefits are higher than not only teachers in other areas, but also comparable private sector jobs.
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    Acheivement tests are specifically used to determine the amount of money that a school district is given, which has a resounding effect on the money that can be spent, among other things, on teachers. Can you cite where they are saying that they want no evals at all? I haven't seen or heard anything where teachers are admandant against evals, more that they want fair evals that actually measure their performance.

    Why shouldn't teachers make a decent living? They are doing a very important job.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alissa_Sal View Post
    Why shouldn't teachers make a decent living? They are doing a very important job.
    There is a difference between making a decent living and bankrupting the city. They are already being offered a 16% pay raise over 4 years and that isn't good enough, which is why they are on strike.

    For 25 years, Chicago's teachers' unions have held the city's parents and students hostage while morally and financially bankrupting the city. Chicago public schools are $665 million in debt, and that debt is expected to exceed $1 billion next year. For 25 years, the union has blocked and impeded educational progress. The time for change is long overdue.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GloriaInTX View Post
    There is a difference between making a decent living and bankrupting the city. They are already being offered a 16% pay raise over 4 years and that isn't good enough, which is why they are on strike.
    I read another article that said one of the sticking points was that they were adding 54 minutes to each school day. This is the equivelant of a week. Should they not be compensated for that time? If they worked 5 fewer days, they would be docked the wages. Another thing I read mentioned wanting the buildings retrofitted for air conditioning. Even though some areas of CA have very mild summers, buildings are still required to have AC. Don't get why that's not reasonable either.

    I'm not sure how CPS can single-handedly bancrupt a city. Perhaps something else is awry.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GloriaInTX View Post
    There is more to an evaluation than just how well students do on a test. There should also be more to it than just the amount of years spent on the job. The teachers in Chicago want no evaluation at all, even though their salaries and benefits are higher than not only teachers in other areas, but also comparable private sector jobs.
    Quote Originally Posted by Alissa_Sal View Post
    Acheivement tests are specifically used to determine the amount of money that a school district is given, which has a resounding effect on the money that can be spent, among other things, on teachers. Can you cite where they are saying that they want no evals at all? I haven't seen or heard anything where teachers are admandant against evals, more that they want fair evals that actually measure their performance.

    Why shouldn't teachers make a decent living? They are doing a very important job.
    I haven't found it either. The contract that ended 6/30/12 had teacher evaluations in it. Most teachers I know welcome feedback from administrators and colleagues.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ethanwinfield View Post
    I read another article that said one of the sticking points was that they were adding 54 minutes to each school day. This is the equivelant of a week. Should they not be compensated for that time? If they worked 5 fewer days, they would be docked the wages. Another thing I read mentioned wanting the buildings retrofitted for air conditioning. Even though some areas of CA have very mild summers, buildings are still required to have AC. Don't get why that's not reasonable either.

    I'm not sure how CPS can single-handedly bancrupt a city. Perhaps something else is awry.
    They already have only a 5 1/2 hour day. So that would just make it the same as most other teachers.

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