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    Yes, i mentioned neglect in one of my earlier posts.

    I guess what bugs me is that it would give someone the ability to simply remove the child from their care. I would not agree with exercising that right without trying other things first. From what i just read briefly...a court could in theory do that, they don't have to try other things first. So maybe i wouldn't argue the actual charge, but I think i would object if they chose to remove her from her parents care.

    All a lot less meaningful since the child is already 17, but i agree with something being on record in case of other problems coming up with the other kids.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ClairesMommy View Post
    And, please anyone else chime in, but I sure as he!! hope I'm not the only parent who plans on having control over what my kids eat WELL after the age of "10 or so".
    I plan on having more control than that too...already do. But there are plenty of parents who lack control over their children. I'm sure they didn't intentionally plan it that way.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ClairesMommy View Post
    She's a minor, under the care of her mother. Did you read anything that said she was emanicpated? 18 is the age of majority in the UK. Doesn't matter if the mother's no longer force feeding her chicken nuggets. She has allowed this to continue in her own home.

    And, please anyone else chime in, but I sure as he!! hope I'm not the only parent who plans on having control over what my kids eat WELL after the age of "10 or so".
    Well- it's clear from Gloria's post that that belief system didn't work so well for her child. Yes- I don't foresee this being much of an issue as so one in their life eats like that- but yes- we plan to continue to influence their food choices for the entirety of their time in our home. I would also hope that anyone who saw a 17 year old being physically or sexually abused would advocate for charges being pressed. The child is still a minor.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KimPossible View Post
    Yes, i mentioned neglect in one of my earlier posts.

    I guess what bugs me is that it would give someone the ability to simply remove the child from their care. I would not agree with exercising that right without trying other things first. From what i just read briefly...a court could in theory do that, they don't have to try other things first. So maybe i wouldn't argue the actual charge, but I think i would object if they chose to remove her from her parents care.

    All a lot less meaningful since the child is already 17, but i agree with something being on record in case of other problems coming up with the other kids.
    CPS (at least in the states) is so overburdened and foster homes such a challenge that it would be extremely rare to have a child taken from a home for anfirst incident in a non physical or sexual abuse situation- unless upon interviewing the family they suspected that a lot more was going on. With lawsuits etc no one is eager to rip kids out of okay homes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ClairesMommy View Post
    And, please anyone else chime in, but I sure as he!! hope I'm not the only parent who plans on having control over what my kids eat WELL after the age of "10 or so".
    I didn't mean that you wouldn't, I just meant that was the time that it would have been a lot easier for her to force her daughter to eat something else. Once they get to be around 10 a lot of their behavior is set and it is a lot more difficult to change something she has allowed her to do for the last 8 years.
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    I can get on board with neglect and at risk.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Potter75 View Post
    Well- it's clear from Gloria's post that that belief system didn't work so well for her child. Yes- I don't foresee this being much of an issue as so one in their life eats like that- but yes- we plan to continue to influence their food choices for the entirety of their time in our home. I would also hope that anyone who saw a 17 year old being physically or sexually abused would advocate for charges being pressed. The child is still a minor.
    Well of course it didn't work because I didn't even meet her until she was 14. Pretty hard to influence what she did at 10 when I didn't even know her then. I can assure you that if she had been my child I would have let her starve before letting her eat chicken nuggets every day. But if you have some magic suggestion of how to take on a 14 year old step daughter already set in her ways with a father that allows her to eat that way and change her behavior I would have like to have heard it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GloriaInTX View Post
    I didn't mean that you wouldn't, I just meant that was the time that it would have been a lot easier for her to force her daughter to eat something else. Once they get to be around 10 a lot of their behavior is set and it is a lot more difficult to change something she has allowed her to do for the last 8 years.
    It's only set at that age if the parents can't be bothered to make a change. We're not talking about unwelcome personality traits here. We're talking about food. Don't want your 10 year old eating chicken nuggets 3 times a day? Don't buy them. It's pretty easy, actually. On this issue it's black and white to me. Maybe you or others might say 'well, it's really NOT that easy' but I beg to differ. Changing a kid's diet, like TOTALLY changing their diet, would be really really hard. I wouldn't want to do it (of course, I never gave my kids $hit food from the start so I don't have that worry) and yeah, I'll bet it's easier for a mother like this one or other parents of obese kids to not even bother trying because they don't want to deal with the work involved and the pushback they know they're going to get from their kid. Lazy, lazy parenting, IMO.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AlyssaEimers View Post
    It is not necessary to speak to me as though I was 5 years old.

    Your posts did come across as though you felt that a child in this situation should be removed from the home. I stated that I felt nutritional classes and parental education would be a better option.
    Could you point out to me where I say that I believe that the child should be removed from the home? I quite clearly state that this is neglect- and go on to explain what neglect means in cases where physical or sexual abuse is not involved. If you are going to misread and misinterpret my posts I am going to post differently to you to help you understand- as being continually misread is frustrating.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GloriaInTX View Post
    Well of course it didn't work because I didn't even meet her until she was 14. Pretty hard to influence what she did at 10 when I didn't even know her then. I can assure you that if she had been my child I would have let her starve before letting her eat chicken nuggets every day. But if you have some magic suggestion of how to take on a 14 year old step daughter already set in her ways with a father that allows her to eat that way and change her behavior I would have like to have heard it.
    my magic solution would be to start at 14. I also wouldn't tolerate a husband who allows their own children to ruin their lives and bodies like that. It's very unkind and unloving and it would be hard for me to respect or honor a man or father like that. *shrug*. No real magic there. Just some tough lovin to help a child set the foundations for a fair shot at a healthy life. Easier to unlearn / relearn at 14 than 40, and at some point she will have to relearn or will suffer the consequences of obesity or hypertension or diabetes or cancer or who knows what.

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