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    Quote Originally Posted by AlyssaEimers View Post
    It is not necessary to speak to me as though I was 5 years old.

    Your posts did come across as though you felt that a child in this situation should be removed from the home. I stated that I felt nutritional classes and parental education would be a better option.
    Just curious, since you never replied to my last post (because you couldn't find the quotes I asked for because I never said them)....but how do you feel that a parent could be compelled or mandated to attend nutritional classes and parental education withOUT CPS involvement? Who would monitor that the parent was complying? Who would provide said classes? What would happen if the parent didn't want to or refused to attend? This is why the initial charge is important. It is the gateway that allows or mandates that this sort of intervention is not only possible, but that the necessary follow up then occurs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AlyssaEimers View Post
    What do you think should happen? An abuse label or neglect label will not accomplish anything. The other children in the family are eating normally. Are you suggesting taking the child or sending the parents to jail? The only thing CPS can do is work with the family to improve her eating habits now. If now the parents are providing her with good food and are trying to make her better, they can not go back and try them for something that happened years and years ago. (Again, not talking about sexual or other abuse that would be a criminal trial)
    No, I don't think the child should be taken out of the home, as a first resort (which, as has already been established, wouldn't happen). I have no issue with a neglect charge because I absolutely think it was neglectful to allow this child to live like this for 15 years without doing anything (much) about it. And I think you're point about "you can't force a 17 year old to eat" is irrelevant because this started when she was 2. They have had 15 years to do something about it. So yes, I absolutely think by this point CPS needs to get involved and insure she receives whatever treatment or help she needs.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AlyssaEimers View Post
    I do think that if is to that extreme then CPS would need to get involved
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    Yes the problem needs to be addressed, but not take the child away unless there are other problems.

    I am not saying that this family should not be investigated, [/QUOTE]

    Quote Originally Posted by Potter75 View Post
    Just curious, since you never replied to my last post (because you couldn't find the quotes I asked for because I never said them)....but how do you feel that a parent could be compelled or mandated to attend nutritional classes and parental education withOUT CPS involvement? Who would monitor that the parent was complying? Who would provide said classes? What would happen if the parent didn't want to or refused to attend? This is why the initial charge is important. It is the gateway that allows or mandates that this sort of intervention is not only possible, but that the necessary follow up then occurs.

    Quote Originally Posted by Potter75 View Post
    Severely obese children frequently have CPS involved, up to and including the removal of the child from the home.
    I did not respond because I am not interested in the back and forth. I never said CPS should not be involved, but that the child should not be removed from the home unless other problems were found. You did bring up removing a child from the home.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Potter75 View Post
    Just curious, since you never replied to my last post (because you couldn't find the quotes I asked for because I never said them)....but how do you feel that a parent could be compelled or mandated to attend nutritional classes and parental education withOUT CPS involvement? Who would monitor that the parent was complying? Who would provide said classes? What would happen if the parent didn't want to or refused to attend? This is why the initial charge is important. It is the gateway that allows or mandates that this sort of intervention is not only possible, but that the necessary follow up then occurs.
    I dont know about there, but here, CPS can be involved without any charges being laid. They are an independent entity, separate from the courts.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AlyssaEimers View Post
    I am not saying that this family should not be investigated,





    I did not respond because I am not interested in the back and forth. I never said CPS should not be involved, but that the child should not be removed from the home unless other problems were found. You did bring up removing a child from the home.[/QUOTE]

    seriously? That was to Carrie, about extreme cases and precedent for removing obese children. NOT about this Kid. its downright lying of you to take statements out of context- stop it. Seriously frustrating.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ftmom View Post
    I dont know about there, but here, CPS can be involved without any charges being laid. They are an independent entity, separate from the courts.
    I believe that is the case here as well. CPS would come, have an investigation, be involved with counseling and training, but a charge would not happen unless abuse or neglect was found and found to be serious. I could be wrong on the details as I have never been investigated by CPS although I know people who have. I do not know anyone who has ever been formally charged though.

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    We went through something like this recently with Weston. I can't honestly say he has ever happily eaten almost anything, the way Tiven does, but he would usually at least try most everything. Suddenly he wanted nothing but macaroni & cheese. I think it was because one of his friends at preschool said something when Weston wouldn't eat pepperoni pizza. For about two weeks, he refused to eat almost everything except a breakfast bar in the morning, and he demanded macaroni & cheese for lunch & dinner, which we did NOT give in to. Our normal routine of saying, "Have three bites and then you can have fruit, yogurt, cold cereal, cheese stick, etc." wasn't working because all he wanted was mac & cheese. It was crazy.

    We talked to him about how his taste buds are growing up just like the rest of his body and like his brain, and how taste buds have to be exercised just like his body and brain. (He's big on brain-related things right now.) So we encouraged him to exercise his taste buds, by trying things he thought he didn't like again & again, because you don't do one jumping jack and call it done for the rest of your life, and we encouraged him to see if his taste buds were growing, see if they might like this food now. He's not quite back to where he was a month ago, but at least most meals he's eating at least most of, and he's no longer demanding mac & cheese every lunch & dinner.

    If we had made no progress, we planned to consult his pediatrician for testing to see if there was something physical, emotional, or mental going on. That's the biggest thing I fault the parents on, not doing *anything* for so many *years* while also giving in to the demand for chicken nuggets.
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