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Chicken Pox Lollipops

Since we are doing the vax debate, how about this?

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/11/07/chicken-pox-lollipops_n_1080040.html

These lollipops sound like less than a treat.
KPHO in Phoenix reports that a Facebook group is offering parents the opportunity to receive lollipops in the mail that have allegedly been infected with chicken pox. The parents seeking these disease-riden sweets want their children to get chicken pox when they're young so they can become immune to the disease and avoid getting it later in life.
KPHO also found parents looking for people to send measles, mumps and rubella.
KJ Dell'Antonia at Slate was dumbfounded:
[INDENT]"Let's try this sentence on for size: 'I just gave my kid a pre-licked lollipop sent to me by a stranger I met on the Internet!'"[/INDENT] HuffPost Parents blogger and author Hayley Krischer wrote that "the stupidity of passing infected chicken pox lollipops through the mail is terrifying."
Dr. Wilbert Mason, a professor of clinical pediatrics at USC's Keck School of Medicine, told the Los Angeles Times that the strategy of sending infected lollipops is unlikely to work. The chicken pox virus requires cells to live in and there probably wouldn't be enough of them on a licked lollipop, Mason explains.
But more dangerous diseases like hepatitis B, group A strep, and staph germs might survive a trip in the mail, Mason speculates.

Jerry Martin, U.S. attorney for the Middle District of Tennessee, confirmed to the AP that sending diseased treats in the mail is illegal.

Biased article aside, is this a good idea? Would you give your child a chicken pox pop?

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Ewww! No I would not give my child a prelicked lollipop, sent to me by a stranger in the mail. Gross!

BUT, I do remember when I was little (before the vax) parents making an effort to give their children Chicken pox. Things like playdates with a sick kid, kissing siblings or parents who have it. Not sure how true it is, but it is said that chicken pox is less severe and has less complications if you get it when young, so I guess if we are talking about something that you knew your child would get eventually, this makes sense to me.

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That is disgusting and potentially dangerous... not because of chicken pox, but everything else you could be picking up.

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Ew!

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Let's see, 1. the virus probably wouldn't survive the whole process of being shipped on a dry lollipop, 2. how do you know this "mother" is actually inecting the lillipop with chicken pow and not, oh hepititis?, 3. it's illegal to send infectious material via mail.

I don't understadn the thinking of not wanting your child to get the vaccine so badly that you would rather infect them with a disease that might have complications. Honestly if a parent gave their kid one of these lollipops and that child had complications from getting chicken pox or got another a disease, I would consider that neglect.

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This is the kind of stuff that happens when conspiracy theory paranoids and anti establishment hippies get to make the medical decisions for other people. It's like lollipop germ warfare.

Morons. Keep your infectious germ bombs out of my mail, kthanks.

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*gag*

That's revolting.

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No freakin way.

I agree with pp.

Holy cow. I'm utterly disappointed in humans right now.

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I find this disgusting! Just the whole pre-licked item disgusts me.

With that said, I would not intentionally expose a child of proper age to chicken pox, but if one child had it and the other didn't I wouldn't neccessarily keep them 100% quarrantined. The dangers of getting chicken pox as an adult are much more severe.

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Definately not.

Not only is it gross but you would never know what else is in those lolli pops.

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Wow. Anyone who participates in this is a complete idiot. The ones doing the mailing should be arrested and charged, IMO. Remember the anthrax mail thing after 9/11? No different. Someone could freaking die. You really want to expose your kid to chicken pox so they develop natural immunity? Just wait until someone you know has a kid who comes down with it and then take your kid over to their house. People actually do that too. Silly, IMO.

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"ftmom" wrote:

Ewww! No I would not give my child a prelicked lollipop, sent to me by a stranger in the mail. Gross!

BUT, I do remember when I was little (before the vax) parents making an effort to give their children Chicken pox. Things like playdates with a sick kid, kissing siblings or parents who have it. Not sure how true it is, but it is said that chicken pox is less severe and has less complications if you get it when young, so I guess if we are talking about something that you knew your child would get eventually, this makes sense to me.

They still do this in my neck of the woods. They call them chicken pox parties. Some coworkers and friends have insisted on bringing their kids to expose them. Sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't. One who's exposed two of her children (one is now in K and the other is 3) since they've been one and have yet to contract the chicken pox.

But actually purchasing a used lollipop is nasty in all it's forms. I hope they prosecute or at minimum shut the company down. It's disgusting people are requesting other more serious diseases as well. Scary!

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"Beertje" wrote:

They still do this in my neck of the woods. They call them chicken pox parties. Some coworkers and friends have insisted on bringing their kids to expose them. Sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't. One who's exposed two of her children (one is now in K and the other is 3) since they've been one and have yet to contract the chicken pox.

But actually purchasing a used lollipop is nasty in all it's forms. I hope they prosecute or at minimum shut the company down. It's disgusting people are requesting other more serious diseases as well. Scary!

Or maybe they have gotten it mildly. They should get their titre levels checked. A friend of mine thought she never had the chicken pox and as a teen was going to get the vax, turns out she had immunity and didn't need the vax.

I had thousands of spots, it was awful, but my DH had maybe 10. He wasn't sick. Either way, we are both immune.

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Or maybe they have gotten it mildly. They should get their titre levels checked. A friend of mine thought she never had the chicken pox and as a teen was going to get the vax, turns out she had immunity and didn't need the vax.

I had thousands of spots, it was awful, but my DH had maybe 10. He wasn't sick. Either way, we are both immune.

Good to know. Are they supposed to check titre levels before giving the vax? I don't recall them doing that with my older kids when I decided to have them get the vax at their reg check up before entering school.

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http://www.dhpe.org/infect/chicken.html

[FONT=Arial]What complications can result from chickenpox?
Although most people recover from chickenpox uneventfully or with a few minor scars, a small percentage suffer more serious complications. Each year in the United States, 4,000 to 9,000 persons are hospitalized with chickenpox, and up to 100 persons die. Those at highest risk for complications are newborns, persons with weakened immune systems, and adults. Although adults make up fewer than 5% of chickenpox cases in the United States, they account for half of the deaths from the disease.
The most common complications of chickenpox are skin infections and pneumonia. Other complications are encephalitis (inflammation of the brain) and hepatitis. Chickenpox can also lead to severe problems in pregnant women, causing stillbirths, birth defects, or infection of the newborn during childbirth.
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Yeah, intentional exposure to the full strength live virus seems like a terrific idea.

http://www.hc-sc.gc.ca/hl-vs/iyh-vsv/med/chickenpox-varicelle-eng.php

Chickenpox costs Canadians more than $122 million per year. This figure represents the cost of medical and hospital care, along with personal and productivity costs for parents and others who take time away from work to be caregivers.

The complications from chickenpox can include bacterial skin infections, scars (if the blisters get infected), pneumonia, and encephalitis (inflammation of the brain). There is an increased risk of birth defects for babies who get chickenpox from their mothers before birth. Also, children with chickenpox have an increased risk of getting necrotizing fasciatus/mytositis (flesh-eating disease). It should be noted, however, that while flesh-eating disease is a complication of chickenpox in children, very few children with chickenpox will develop flesh-eating disease.

No matter how small the risk might be, why would anyone want their kid to be at an increased risk for those complications? To me it just makes no sense.

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"Claire'sMommy" wrote:

http://www.dhpe.org/infect/chicken.html

Yeah, intentional exposure to the full strength live virus seems like a terrific idea.

http://www.hc-sc.gc.ca/hl-vs/iyh-vsv/med/chickenpox-varicelle-eng.php

No matter how small the risk might be, why would anyone want their kid to be at an increased risk for those complications? To me it just makes no sense.

We are taking the risk because the chicken pox vax isn't 100% effective. About 10% of people still get the illness. It may be milder, but not for all. And if you get the chicken pox as an adult it can be very serious - so even a mild form of adult chicken pox could be serious. And they may need boosters by that point as well. I have no way of knowing that she will get them if needed. If you get the chicken pox naturally it is 100% immunity. It may not be as mild, but it might be. The information below indicates that an after vax case of cp will have less than 50 spots. To me this does not seem mild. I know of many people who only had a dozen spots from getting it naturally. So there are a lot of maybes and unknowns on both sides. The chances of complications exist in both cases. We are going with the one that leads to 100% immunity. (Unless she doesn't get it by age 10. Then we will get the vax.)

Is the vaccine effective in preventing all cases of chickenpox?
No vaccine is 100% effective in preventing disease. For chickenpox vaccine, about 9 out of every 10 people who are vaccinated with two doses are completely protected from chickenpox. In addition, the recommended two-dose regimen is virtually 100% effective in preventing severe disease. If a vaccinated person does get chickenpox, it is usually a very mild case lasting only a few days and involving fewer skin lesions (usually less than 50, which may resemble bug bites more than typical, fluid-filled chickenpox blisters), mild or no fever, and a quicker recovery. http://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/vpd-vac/varicella/vac-faqs-gen.htm

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"fuchsiasky" wrote:

If you get the chicken pox naturally it is 100% immunity. It may not be as mild, but it might be.

Not true.

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"fuchsiasky" wrote:

We are taking the risk because the chicken pox vax isn't 100% effective. About 10% of people still get the illness. It may be milder, but not for all. And if you get the chicken pox as an adult it can be very serious - so even a mild form of adult chicken pox could be serious. And they may need boosters by that point as well. I have no way of knowing that she will get them if needed. If you get the chicken pox naturally it is 100% immunity. It may not be as mild, but it might be. The information below indicates that an after vax case of cp will have less than 50 spots. To me this does not seem mild. I know of many people who only had a dozen spots from getting it naturally. So there are a lot of maybes and unknowns on both sides. The chances of complications exist in both cases. We are going with the one that leads to 100% immunity. (Unless she doesn't get it by age 10. Then we will get the vax.)

Is the vaccine effective in preventing all cases of chickenpox?
No vaccine is 100% effective in preventing disease. For chickenpox vaccine, about 9 out of every 10 people who are vaccinated with two doses are completely protected from chickenpox. In addition, the recommended two-dose regimen is virtually 100% effective in preventing severe disease. If a vaccinated person does get chickenpox, it is usually a very mild case lasting only a few days and involving fewer skin lesions (usually less than 50, which may resemble bug bites more than typical, fluid-filled chickenpox blisters), mild or no fever, and a quicker recovery. http://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/vpd-vac/varicella/vac-faqs-gen.htm

Yep, this happened to my older kids... they got the vax when going into school but got a milder form of it in later elementary with not even a dozen on each. My 17 y/o was just told by her ped that she needed to have a booster anyway as they originally gave only one shot.

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Fuchsia, I was talking about intentional exposure to the virus - taking your kid someplace where you know there's an infected child.

[FONT=Arial]Yeah, intentional exposure to the full strength live virus seems like a terrific idea.

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I realize you (general) can't prevent exposure when you don't know who's sick or not, the vax isn't 100%, etc., but to WANT your kids to get it and physically expose them to it in order to hypothetically give them natural immunity? It kind of boggles my mind. People can still get shingles after chicken pox - a different kind of herpes virus.

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"Claire'sMommy" wrote:

Fuchsia, I was talking about intentional exposure to the virus - taking your kid someplace where you know there's an infected child.

I realize you (general) can't prevent exposure when you don't know who's sick or not, the vax isn't 100%, etc., but to WANT your kids to get it and physically expose them to it in order to hypothetically give them natural immunity? It kind of boggles my mind. People can still get shingles after chicken pox - a different kind of herpes virus.

If DD didn't have a baby at daycare I definitely would have exposed her to the illness. I want her to get them as a child so it isn't as bad. If the vax was fully effective then we would go for it, but it isn't 100%. But we could get the vax and then have her get the cp anyways - with all the risks of getting it in the first place. My friends daughter who had the vax, with a reaction, then had the cp can now get shingles too. And she had the vax! So she essentially got the cp twice when once would have done the same thing.

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"Potter75" wrote:

Not true.

If you have information that I am not aware of feel free to enlighten me.

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"fuchsiasky" wrote:

If DD didn't have a baby at daycare I definitely would have exposed her to the illness. I want her to get them as a child so it isn't as bad. If the vax was fully effective then we would go for it, but it isn't 100%. But we could get the vax and then have her get the cp anyways - with all the risks of getting it in the first place. My friends daughter who had the vax, with a reaction, then had the cp can now get shingles too. And she had the vax! So she essentially got the cp twice when once would have done the same thing.

You do know that people who don't get the vax and do get chickenpox can "now get shingles too", right?

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"fuchsiasky" wrote:

If you have information that I am not aware of feel free to enlighten me.

Okay.

Getting chicken pox "naturally" does not give you 100% immunity.

You are at risk for shingles and it is not entirely uncommon to get chickenpox 2 or more times.

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"Potter75" wrote:

You do know that people who don't get the vax and do get chickenpox can "now get shingles too", right?

Yes. But the vax doesn't prevent shingles either if you still get CP after being vaxed.

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Yes. But the vax doesn't prevent shingles either if you still get CP after being vaxed.

That's why they have the shingles vax. But let me guess........

Anyway, it seemed you were implying that "natural" CP guard against shingles. I remember Danielle making that mistake in this debate before.

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"Potter75" wrote:

Okay.

Getting chicken pox "naturally" does not give you 100% immunity.

You are at risk for shingles and it is not entirely uncommon to get chickenpox 2 or more times.

Do you have anything to back this up? I am not trying to be b1tchy about it, I am truly interested if there is information out there about that immunity.

The CDC website says: Can you get chickenpox more than once? Yes, but such occurrences are uncommon. For most people, one infection appears to confer lifelong immunity.

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Google has 558,000 hits for "chicken pox twice". There are several people I know IRL who have had them more than once. Ditto posters on this board, if I remember the last debate right.

I'm no Dr, and if you don't believe the Vax Dr's, you won't believe me, but doing your own research is easy on google!

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Gross. No way!

I had chicken pox before 5 and then shingles at 16. The shingles were increibly painful.

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"Potter75" wrote:

That's why they have the shingles vax. But let me guess........

Anyway, it seemed you were implying that "natural" CP guard against shingles. I remember Danielle making that mistake in this debate before.

Not at all! I am just questioning if the vax prevents shingles. I know that cp is a pre-courser to shingles.

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"Potter75" wrote:

Google has 558,000 hits for "chicken pox twice". There are several people I know IRL who have had them more than once. Ditto posters on this board, if I remember the last debate right.

I'm no Dr, and if you don't believe the Vax Dr's, you won't believe me, but doing your own research is easy on google!

If the medical community was in agreement on this one I wouldn't have had the issues I did saying yes to the vax. But everyone I spoke with had a slightly different story. I did google and found the CDC site. I see a lot of maybe's. I don't like maybe's when it comes to live vaxing!

I want to make the right decision for DD. In truth, I have been second guessing this one since I heard there was a vax. No matter what we decide I feel like we are doing the wrong thing. I wish there were fewer maybes involved. Then I might know what the right decision is. Any way I look at it I see a wrong decision. I envy those of you who have such trust in this vax. I wish I did.

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"Beertje" wrote:

Good to know. Are they supposed to check titre levels before giving the vax? I don't recall them doing that with my older kids when I decided to have them get the vax at their reg check up before entering school.

It isn't required, but I think it would be prudent to request it if you're child has been around chicken pox and never "caught it". No sense getting a vaccine, if they are already immune.

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Not at all! I am just questioning if the vax prevents shingles. I know that cp is a pre-courser to shingles.

Chicken pox is caused by the herpes zoster virus. After getting chicken pox (or the chicken pox vax) the herpes virus becomes dormant in various nerves along your spine. Over time, it is possible for your immunity to wane and the virus to re-emerge as shingles. It only affects the dermatomes (nerve areas) where it resided, which is why it only affects localized parts of the body, as opposed to chicken pox which can be any where. Shingles is extremely painful as it is nerve pain.

There are concerns about increased rates of shingles as fewer people are getting chicken pox and we are less exposed to the virus. Exposure given you a "booster" of sorts and without it, the theory is, immunity can decrease allowing the virus to flare up as shingles.

Caveat. That was off the top of my head. If someone wants to look up the exact mechanisms of the disease go for it. Smile

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just wanted to through this out there, a lot of canadian health centres have taken away the option, CP is now included in the standard 12 month roster of shots (MMR-Var). private docs can still do it separate but it costs quite a bit of money. i know there are a few moms (in my little circle of world) that seemed unaware that their child got it until they went back to check the records, even though it is discussed prior to giving the shot (or is supposed to be).

the lollipop is DISGUSTING and i agree with most ppls comments on whether it would even survive the mail and what else is on it?

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"fuchsiasky" wrote:

I want to make the right decision for DD. In truth, I have been second guessing this one since I heard there was a vax. No matter what we decide I feel like we are doing the wrong thing. I wish there were fewer maybes involved. Then I might know what the right decision is. Any way I look at it I see a wrong decision. I envy those of you who have such trust in this vax. I wish I did.

I feel the same way about the chicken pox vaccine. I am pro-vax and think they are really important.

However, I have some serious reservations about this one. Mainly, because people don't tend to keep up on booster shots into teen/adulthood. Are we going to see a rise in adult getting chicken pox (and shingles)? It is a far more serious disease for adults and, especially, pregnant women. I can't help but wonder if allowing children to get it as a child and develop immunity naturally wouldn't be better, in the long term.

That said, my kids are all vaccinated against it. I ended up doing it because while I don't really like it, I also realize with most kids being vaccinated, the odds of them catching at are slim.

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"natesangel" wrote:

just wanted to through this out there, a lot of canadian health centres have taken away the option, CP is now included in the standard 12 month roster of shots (MMR-Var). private docs can still do it separate but it costs quite a bit of money. i know there are a few moms (in my little circle of world) that seemed unaware that their child got it until they went back to check the records, even though it is discussed prior to giving the shot (or is supposed to be).

The CP is part of the "standard" shots (but still done separately where I am in Ontario last time I checked) but you can refuse it if you don't want it... and it is not a MANDATORY vax at least in Ontario. It is only "recommended". I refused it for my ds and my doctor told me he agreed with my reasons. Though at this rate he'll end up with the vax in the future because he refuses to catch it! He's been exposed (not intentionally ;)) 5-6 times and no luck. He had blood work done for something over the Summer so I asked them to do his varicella titre and, lo and behold, he's negative *sigh* (was hoping he'd be like my aunt and uncle and not get it, yet they test positive when they do titres)... so apparently he's got a good immune system LOL If he hasn't gotten it naturally by the time he's around 12 I will get him vax'd.

All that said... the lollipop thing is totally disgusting. No way on earth I'd willingly or knowingly let my child have a sucker that some other kid had had in their mouth... especially some stranger's kid. YUCK! Who knows what other germs they're harbouring! And who's going to guarantee it was CP the kid had when they licked it?

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It isn't required, but I think it would be prudent to request it if you're child has been around chicken pox and never "caught it". No sense getting a vaccine, if they are already immune.

Chicken pox is caused by the herpes zoster virus. After getting chicken pox (or the chicken pox vax) the herpes virus becomes dormant in various nerves along your spine. Over time, it is possible for your immunity to wane and the virus to re-emerge as shingles. It only affects the dermatomes (nerve areas) where it resided, which is why it only affects localized parts of the body, as opposed to chicken pox which can be any where. Shingles is extremely painful as it is nerve pain.

There are concerns about increased rates of shingles as fewer people are getting chicken pox and we are less exposed to the virus. Exposure given you a "booster" of sorts and without it, the theory is, immunity can decrease allowing the virus to flare up as shingles.

Caveat. That was off the top of my head. If someone wants to look up the exact mechanisms of the disease go for it. Smile

See, this is what worries me. What will happen when the vax wears off? Will we have a generation of adults who all get really serious cp cause they are no longer immune? Will they all get shingles?

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"kris_w" wrote:

I feel the same way about the chicken pox vaccine. I am pro-vax and think they are really important.

However, I have some serious reservations about this one. Mainly, because people don't tend to keep up on booster shots into teen/adulthood. Are we going to see a rise in adult getting chicken pox (and shingles)? It is a far more serious disease for adults and, especially, pregnant women. I can't help but wonder if allowing children to get it as a child and develop immunity naturally wouldn't be better, in the long term.

That said, my kids are all vaccinated against it. I ended up doing it because while I don't really like it, I also realize with most kids being vaccinated, the odds of them catching at are slim.

I feel the same way exactly! I have some big worries on this one.

That said, after researching more for this debate and talking to my sister (who has shingles) I am wondering if we should just get the vax for DD. I wish I knew what the right answer! It is so easy with things like polio where it is obvious. Either way I go with the cp vax I feel like I am making the wrong decision.

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"fuchsiasky" wrote:

I feel the same way exactly! I have some big worries on this one.

That said, after researching more for this debate and talking to my sister (who has shingles) I am wondering if we should just get the vax for DD. I wish I knew what the right answer! It is so easy with things like polio where it is obvious. Either way I go with the cp vax I feel like I am making the wrong decision.

It is a really tough call. I still wonder if I shouldn't have just waited until they are 10 or so, and vax then, if they hadn't caught it??

But, then if I did and they got chicken pox, I know I would feel badly. I was 5 was I had them and it was awful. I must have had a thousand spots. It was soooo itchy. I have scars from it.

But, getting them as a kid is better than when they are older. I'll regret what I've done if they catch them when they are older to.

I'm just not convinced there is a "right" answer to this one.

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Stupid and disgusting. As well as the pox parties, too.

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"kris_w" wrote:

It is a really tough call. I still wonder if I shouldn't have just waited until they are 10 or so, and vax then, if they hadn't caught it??

But, then if I did and they got chicken pox, I know I would feel badly. I was 5 was I had them and it was awful. I must have had a thousand spots. It was soooo itchy. I have scars from it.

But, getting them as a kid is better than when they are older. I'll regret what I've done if they catch them when they are older to.

I'm just not convinced there is a "right" answer to this one.

Exactly! She could get them now and end up with shingles like my sister did. Or we could vax and it could wear off and she could get a serious case. Or it could wear off and present as shingles. I don't know. After this debate I am questioning my choice again. But neither seems good. Our original plan was to not vax till about 10 and hope she gets them young.

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It is a really tough call. I still wonder if I shouldn't have just waited until they are 10 or so, and vax then, if they hadn't caught it??

But, then if I did and they got chicken pox, I know I would feel badly. I was 5 was I had them and it was awful. I must have had a thousand spots. It was soooo itchy. I have scars from it.

Once I realized that I could never intentionally expose my kids to CP, I decided to vax them, as I really came to feel that intentionally not vaxing them was not much different than taking them to a pox party or buying a sucked on internet germpop for their exposure pleasure.

I used to plan to wait till 10 or so....then I sent them off to preschool (and our gym, with hundreds of kids) and the grocery store and classes and old folks homes and a billion other places......so wanted them vaxed. I just, as a Mom, could not intentionally expose them to something which could be so uncomfortable and/or downright painful and occasionally dangerous. If they were scarred for life I would feel sick every time I looked at their pocked little body.

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I used to plan to wait till 10 or so....then I sent them off to preschool (and our gym, with hundreds of kids) and the grocery store and classes and old folks homes and a billion other places......so wanted them vaxed. I just, as a Mom, could not intentionally expose them to something which could be so uncomfortable and/or downright painful and occasionally dangerous. If they were scarred for life I would feel sick every time I looked at their pocked little body.

This is how I am feeling. I talked with my sister who has shingles and she said it was the worst pain ever. I hate to think of that for DD.

But as I read through the different sides on the issue there are so many questions still. I am not sure how to make sure she doesn't get shingles or some other complication. There are questions as to whether the vax will wear off and cp will present as shingles. And that the thing that keeps shingles from presenting in most of us is that we are exposed to cp which acts like a booster. So without that we could end up with being much more prevalent. And the vax is only 70%-95% effective. So which is the right answer? I am really not sure. I wish this wasn't such a new vaccine so we had more idea about the long term.

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This is how I am feeling. I talked with my sister who has shingles and she said it was the worst pain ever. I hate to think of that for DD.

But as I read through the different sides on the issue there are so many questions still. I am not sure how to make sure she doesn't get shingles or some other complication. There are questions as to whether the vax will wear off and cp will present as shingles. And that the thing that keeps shingles from presenting in most of us is that we are exposed to cp which acts like a booster. So without that we could end up with being much more prevalent. And the vax is only 70%-95% effective. So which is the right answer? I am really not sure. I wish this wasn't such a new vaccine so we had more idea about the long term.

Yep! Due to the recent push for childhood CP vaccinations, we've seen an uptick in adult shingles cases. Adults used to get a natural "booster" every time they came in contact with kids that had the CP, but no more.

This article is from 2008, but it's still interesting.

Dr. Rafael Harpaz, medical epidemiologist for the CDC, agreed the number of shingles cases in the U.S. is increasing.
And it’s not just the Baby Boomer population that is at risk. Anyone who has had chickenpox can get shingles, he said.
About one-third of the U.S. population will get shingles, he said....

...Shingles is a painful condition that can last three to five weeks, and for a portion of people it becomes life-shattering,” Harpaz said. “They end up having excruciating pain that is very debilitating. It can last for years. Their lives are ruined.”

Dr. John Badalamenti, medical director of Pain Medicine Specialists in Sun City, said he sees about 10 shingles patients a month, which is twice the number he treated five years ago.
He said few of his patients are aware a vaccine is available, so he is starting a campaign to educate primary care doctors and patients.
“The chickenpox infection never goes away, and it can come back in an uglier form when you’re an adult,” Badalamenti said.

“This has a direct impact on business and productivity.,” he said. “When you’re in the midst of a full-blown infection, forget going to work.”...

...Plus, he said, shingles can cause nerve pain that lasts for years.

Honestly, I think we should have just left the CP alone, but hindsight is 20/20, I guess.

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"The Great Vagina" wrote:

Yep! Due to the recent push for childhood CP vaccinations, we've seen an uptick in adult shingles cases. Adults used to get a natural "booster" every time they came in contact with kids that had the CP, but no more.

This article is from 2008, but it's still interesting.

Honestly, I think we should have just left the CP alone, but hindsight is 20/20, I guess.

I agree. I think that the overuse of vaccines could actually cause as many problems as they solve. There are some diseases so horrible that it is well worth it to try to eradicate them, but there are also cases where we would be better of leaving it alone. Like the chicken pox.

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Honestly, I think we should have just left the CP alone, but hindsight is 20/20, I guess.

I agree.