To OT I would have to say that if CC knew I wouldn't be surprised. I think these kids of games are played on a regular basis. Just read an article yesterday about DeBlasio wanting to get rid of the carriages because one of his political contributors wants the land the stables are on for office space. Don't know if it is true or not, but I am almost to the point where I am not sure we would be able to elect anybody without this kind of thing going on.
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Thanks to the Conservatives for answering about who they prefer. I know it's early in the game, I just read somewhere that CC was the current GOP front runner so I was curious who else might be a contender.
To the original debate, I kind of have a hard time believing that he *didn't* know about it. This wasn't just the CC administration in a sort of vague far removed way (like calling the county clerk of Douglas County CO part of "the Obama Administration" or something...LOL) this were his direct appointees, his chief of staff, as well as his press secretary among others in the later parts of the email string. Also, if it was in retaliation, it seems unlikely that his staff would just take it upon themselves to pull a stunt like that without making him aware of it. I mean, I like my job pretty well but I'm not going to go out and do something illegal to sabotage our competition just because I'm so passionate about it....kwim? Plus, it sounds like he and this David Wildstein were pretty close friends - it seems too "juicy" for them not to have talked about it at some point. So the whole thing sort of leads me to think that he must have been in on it at some level.
I do think that it will and should reflect back on Chris Christie. It sounds to me like his team deliberately hurt his own people (the people of New Jersey) in order to hurt a political "foe." That is not okay, and certainly makes me suspicious that he would not have a problem doing the same thing to the American people at large if he were President.
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I agree that ultimately it should reflect back on Christie. Even if he didn't know about it initially, he should have figured it out at some point. If he didn't, then that reflects on poor management because he should know what his people are doing. It does seem a little strange that he wouldn't have asked any questions about why the backups were happening since it was such a big issue, and even if they lied about it being a study it seems like he would have made an attempt to figure out what the study was for since it was causing such huge problems.
I do respect the fact that he at least has apologized for it and fired people involved, that is more than Obama has done for all the scandals involving the people that work for him that he claimed not to know about. It might not be enough to save him though.
Another person I would prefer over Christie is Scott Walker. I have heard him mentioned a few times and I think he would be a good candidate if he decides to run.
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Even before this incident Christie was too far left for me last go around.. and he upset me the way he treated the Jersey Shore after their storm... I didn't realize how devastating it still is over there still and he is out carousing around etc.. doing gosh knows what.. made me ill awhile back.. this was about 4-6 months after the disaster there..
that and a couple other things confirmed to me that if he ever ran I wouldn't vote for him.
The Rep party is going to have to rebuild just like the Dem party did.. WE need a leader.. Obama did a great job uniting his party I will give him that. I for one have vowed to myself not to put anyone's name down I do not agree with 100% and why should I I live in a blue state there would be no ethical point in going against any one of my personally held beliefs to go against even ONE of them.. to go with a "less of the two evils" Even if it means writing in a candidate that isn't even "legally" on my ballot to run.
Last couple years I like a candidate better that dropped out earlier.. I liked Duncan Hunter more than McCain by far and would have taken Alan Keys or Herman Cain over Romney any day.. but it didn't play out that way.
I haven't had time to look yet who I like right now.. better so don't want to name drop.. they would have to line up with all my key issues..
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