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    If you are going to limit the free speech of the military because it makes others uncomfortable, all profanity should also be banned.


    Laurie - I am sorry about your mother. I find people often do not know what to say when someone dies.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AlyssaEimers View Post
    If you are going to limit the free speech of the military because it makes others uncomfortable, all profanity should also be banned.


    Laurie - I am sorry about your mother. I find people often do not know what to say when someone dies.
    Thanks Bonita.

    But it's not about being "uncomfortable"....religious proselytizers can be bullies. Some are very aggressive and if they are senior level or a majority group, it creates a very difficult and intimidating situation for others.

    The guy in my situation was not my boss, was not trying to make me become religious, he just didn't even consider that I might not share his beliefs, and when I said something, he backed off. But some people don't back off and put tons of pressure on other people to be like "the group" or the "norm" or whatever.
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    As previously stated, if someone is being harassed or bullied, that is completely different than someone sharing information with someone that wants to hear it. The outright banning of sharing your faith or talking about your faith is unbelievable. I mean I can not believe we are having this conversation.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mom3girls View Post
    Yes. Before working in a christian school I worked in merchandise allocation in the fashion industry. I traveled quite extensively and on more then one occasion I was in a situation where people tried to convert me. I politely said I had a strong belief system that did not include their teachings, and it was always received quite well.

    I am not sure who is "sharing" faith with you guys, but every time it has happened to me when I told the person that I was happy with the church I attend they were fine. I have never felt harassed.
    In my personal experience, when I went to church and had a religion of my own people backed off quickly when I asked them to. It is now that I dont go to church and lean more towards atheism that I find people wont just back off. They want to know what I do belive and I think they feel I am confused (which I am not) so they keep pushing. I dont want to argue with them, I just want them to stop and go away

    I dont mind pamphlets or gentle conversation, however I dont think work is ever the place for it. Especially not from someone of authority.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AlyssaEimers View Post
    As previously stated, if someone is being harassed or bullied, that is completely different than someone sharing information with someone that wants to hear it. The outright banning of sharing your faith or talking about your faith is unbelievable. I mean I can not believe we are having this conversation.

    Of course you can't. That is because you live in a safe little bubble of Christian privilege. Heck Bonita, you ACTUALLY believed that no one in your entire state had abortions because you believed that your ENTIRE STATE was pro life!!!! You have yet to acknowledge the fact that your state is 14th out of 51 in the country in abortions, and that you actually have NO IDEA what is going on outside of your little bubble of homeschool/church world.

    Think about what you wrote. Do you believe that someone who WANTS to hear the "information", who seeks it out, who ASKS to be witnessed to, would then turn in the witnesser for sharing their faith? Of course not.

    The ban is specific to

    pros?e?ly?tize (prs-l-tz)v. pros?e?ly?tized, pros?e?ly?tiz?ing, pros?e?ly?tiz?es
    v.intr.1. To induce someone to convert to one's own religious faith.

    That does not mean saying "i go to bible study". Or "i follow Jesus". It means to proselytize. Specifically. And no, there is no place for that. I don't want to be induced to do ANYTHING other than my job. I don't want people to do that to me at my gym, or on the golf course, or at our pool, or on the beach. And I certainly don't want them to do it in my workplace, where I cannot get away from them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Potter75 View Post
    Of course you can't. That is because you live in a safe little bubble of Christian privilege. Heck Bonita, you ACTUALLY believed that no one in your entire state had abortions because you believed that your ENTIRE STATE was pro life!!!! You have yet to acknowledge the fact that your state is 14th out of 51 in the country in abortions, and that you actually have NO IDEA what is going on outside of your little bubble of homeschool/church world.

    Think about what you wrote. Do you believe that someone who WANTS to hear the "information", who seeks it out, who ASKS to be witnessed to, would then turn in the witnesser for sharing their faith? Of course not.

    The ban is specific to

    pros?e?ly?tize (prs-l-tz)v. pros?e?ly?tized, pros?e?ly?tiz?ing, pros?e?ly?tiz?es
    v.intr.1. To induce someone to convert to one's own religious faith.

    That does not mean saying "i go to bible study". Or "i follow Jesus". It means to proselytize. Specifically. And no, there is no place for that. I don't want to be induced to do ANYTHING other than my job. I don't want people to do that to me at my gym, or on the golf course, or at our pool, or on the beach. And I certainly don't want them to do it in my workplace, where I cannot get away from them.
    I never said no one in the entire state of TN gets an abortion. I said there is no abortion clinic here because the majority of people do not want one here.

    I am sorry, I am not able to debate with you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Potter75 View Post
    Of course you can't. That is because you live in a safe little bubble of Christian privilege. Heck Bonita, you ACTUALLY believed that no one in your entire state had abortions because you believed that your ENTIRE STATE was pro life!!!! You have yet to acknowledge the fact that your state is 14th out of 51 in the country in abortions, and that you actually have NO IDEA what is going on outside of your little bubble of homeschool/church world.
    I would just like to point out that this is a personal attack. Please debate the topic and not Bonita.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GloriaInTX View Post
    I would just like to point out that this is a personal attack. Please debate the topic and not Bonita.

    Thank you, you are right. I was feeling frustrated after her personal attack on me last night. Please forgive me Bonita. It is difficult when you continue to just jump in without debating and then jump out. I'm glad that you are done doing that. Please accept my apology.

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    Here as in your town or in TN? A quick google search pulled up 3 which is a small amount compared to the size of your state but they exist.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jessica80 View Post
    Here as in your town or in TN? A quick google search pulled up 3 which is a small amount compared to the size of your state but they exist.
    Here as in my city. The closest abortion clinic is 83 miles away and is in a different state.

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