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    Quote Originally Posted by freddieflounder101 View Post
    Bonita, I disagree. I'm on Weight Watchers, I do yoga, and I discuss these things with co-workers and never, ever try to get them to do the same. I bake healthy things and bring them in and when someone else bakes and brings me something I never tell them to stop using white sugar or butter even though those are the things I do.

    Even when I felt I had to have a health conversation with my husband, I didn't bring it up casually....I waited for the right time and we had a big heart-to-heart. I would never have a conversation like that at work. It's inappropriate and it puts pressure on people. I can't imagine telling someone at work that they should eat better or exercise, even as I change my own lifestyle and feel better for it. It's not okay. And I would be very annoyed by someone else doing that to me.
    But do you feel you should be prosecuted for it? That if you and your husband were in the military and you carefully broached the subject with him that you could be court martialed for it?
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    I want to add that as important as your Christianity is to you, my atheism is to me. It's not an absence of belief, it's a carefully thought out belief that means a great deal to me in terms of how I view the world. I wouldn't go up to a practicing Christian and try to talk them into another religion, but atheists don't get that respect at all. My beliefs matter.
    I understand your Atheism is important to you. My brother is an Atheist. We do not talk about it. I know what he believes and he knows what I believe. That first conversation though of what do you believe, I do not think is wrong. If after you have talked about it, and the person says they do not want to talk about it, then you need to stop. Sharing your religion can not be made illegal though. There are many non-christians that enjoy taking about it. People who have no religion and are searching for one. There is no crime in talking to those people. By banning sharing religion over all, you are also banning talking to those people who want to hear.

    To the argument that those people would not turn you in, I would not (as would many people) be willing to talk about something in the hopes that someone would not turn me in. What if someone overheard or that person had a vendetta. You simply can not limit free speech. Nagging someone that does not want to hear is much different than sharing with someone who does.
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    It's not about random conversation AT ALL. Why do you insist that it is?
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    I think if I were at my job and walked around trying to get people to eat the way I do that I should be fired for it. Comparable.

    But again, it's not about random conversation.
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    Forcing someone to talk about something they do not want to talk about is harassment. Someone that is sharing their faith with someone in a calm polite way is witnessing, which is what we are talking about. Making it a court martial offence to share your faith with someone.

    Let me give a mock conversation.

    Person A - So what did you do this weekend?
    Person B - I mowed my grass on Saturday and went to church on Sunday.
    Person A - Oh, you go to church. Why do you do that?
    Person B - Well I go to church because xyz....
    Person A - That is neat. Do they accept just anyone?
    Person B - Yes, we would love to have you. Our services are at such and such a time at such and such a place.
    Person A - That is great. What do they teach there?
    Person B - They teach xyz. I think it is really great because...
    and so on.

    Sharing your faith should not be a crime. Harassment is a completely different subject. This is banning anyone from trying to share their faith.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AlyssaEimers View Post
    Forcing someone to talk about something they do not want to talk about is harassment. Someone that is sharing their faith with someone in a calm polite way is witnessing, which is what we are talking about. Making it a court martial offence to share your faith with someone.

    Let me give a mock conversation.

    Person A - So what did you do this weekend?
    Person B - I mowed my grass on Saturday and went to church on Sunday.
    Person A - Oh, you go to church. Why do you do that?
    Person B - Well I go to church because xyz....
    Person A - That is neat. Do they accept just anyone?
    Person B - Yes, we would love to have you. Our services are at such and such a time at such and such a place.
    Person A - That is great. What do they teach there?
    Person B - They teach xyz. I think it is really great because...
    and so on.

    Sharing your faith should not be a crime. Harassment is a completely different subject. This is banning anyone from trying to share their faith.
    But in your scenario, person A is asking questions. How about this one:

    A: What did you do this weekend?
    B: I went to church.
    A: That's nice. I had a picnic.
    B: I get a lot from church, have you ever tried it?
    A: No, I'm not religious.
    B: Being a ___ (insert faith) has changed my life. You should really explore it.
    A: Well it's not really my thing.
    B: People say that, but in my church, we all get enriched by what happens and our souls are saved and it's great.
    A: Um, yeah, not really my thing.
    B: Your soul would be saved if you went. Why don't you try it? Do you want to suffer and have your children suffer?
    A: No, but that's not the path for me.
    B: Maybe it is and you don't know. God is here for you.

    and so on.....
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    As I said, that is harassment. Both conversations would be punished if this passed.

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    No they wouldnt. You simply aren't understanding the information correctly.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Potter75 View Post
    No they wouldnt. You simply aren't understanding the information correctly.
    Do you have a different article than was posted in the OP? I went back and carefully re-read the OP. I am representing the facts of that OP. If that article is incorrect, I would be delighted to be shown otherwise.

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    Well-since you seem unable or unwilling to accept the definition I have posted and others have referred to, sure, I can give you another article. The Internet is actually full of other articles- it's a magical place. Pentagon pushed to end Christian proselytizing? ? Hot Air. . This one explains it pretty much the same way I and others on this thread have but using more words.
    Last edited by Potter75; 05-02-2013 at 07:41 PM.

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