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    Yeah but you can't really blame/penalize that guy if people other religions didn't want to participate. He has no control over that.

    I'm not really sure why religious stuff needs to be on public property anyway, but if we're going to allow it, I don't see how we can make a rule that says it's only allowed if they can get a bunch of different religions to agree to be in on it too. Like, in order to put my Solstice star up, I have to call the local Church and talk them into doing a Xmas tree, and call up the local synogogue and talk them into doing a menorah, and so on? What if they just don't want to put anything up? Or what if I want my thing to be on MY median, and they want their thing to be on a median closer to them? We have to agree on all of this or else the city denies all of our permits? Like herding cats!

    Again, I think it would be sufficient to make a clear policy that says if people from other religions apply for a permit, they will be given equal space.
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    I agree~it's not his responsibility to put up other things.

    If someone asks for a permit and is denied then I would start getting upset.

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    I wonder how long the Freedom from Religion people apply to put up something bashing or mocking Christians just to prove their point? I give it less than a week for them to apply for the permit.

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    I hope they don't do anything to mock those that have religious beliefs. I know FFR has done some things like that I that don't agree with (basically saying that those that believe are stupid which I take offense to since my belief system is well thought out for me) just like I don't agree with religious people telling non believers that they are evil.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wlillie View Post
    I wonder how long the Freedom from Religion people apply to put up something bashing or mocking Christians just to prove their point? I give it less than a week for them to apply for the permit.
    Looks like that's what some other athiests did in Santa Monica just to ruin it for everyone else. Disgusting.

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    So it's Constitutional to put religious messages up on public property, on the understanding that anyone who applies for a permit will have the same right to do so......unless atheists actually do it, in which case it's disgusting. Got it.
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    Alissa~the only thing I will say is that some of the messages that I have seen posted from FFR are not very nice. Calling people uneducated etc. That's not fair and I don't support it.

    Putting out a message saying they don't believe done in a nice manner I think is completely acceptable.

    Does that make sense?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alissa_Sal View Post
    So it's Constitutional to put religious messages up on public property, on the understanding that anyone who applies for a permit will have the same right to do so......unless atheists actually do it, in which case it's disgusting. Got it.
    Did you read the article? They didn't just put up an opposing sign, that would have been no problem. They did that and that wasn't enough for them so they hijacked the process by putting in requests for ALL the spaces and just put ugly signs in every space so the city just said that NO one could do it. That was just spiteful. I don't see how you can not call that disgusting.
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    Sure. The problem is that some things that people believe just aren't very nice, are they? So when we open the door for people to start posting their beliefs on public property, that's part of the thing we open the door to.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GloriaInTX View Post
    Did you read the article? They didn't just put up an opposing sign, that would have been no problem. They did that and that wasn't enough for them so they hijacked the process by putting in requests for ALL the spaces and just put ugly signs in every space so the city just said that NO one could do it. That was just spiteful. I don't see how you can not call that disgusting.
    Are there rules in that city that says that you can only apply for a certain amount of spaces? If so, they should have applied them. What if Christians had applied for all of the spaces? In a first come first serve system I wouldn't call that disgusting, I would call that first come first served.
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