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    Quote Originally Posted by kris_w View Post
    This is really interesting to me. I knew there are different types of sign language, but didn't know the difference between them.

    So, when I sign the alphabet, I'm doing SEE, but if I sign "more" or "please" with my kids, its ASL?

    I can certainly see where the debate between use of the two would come from. Interesting.
    The hand alphabet is still ASL, but if you're spelling out each word in the order that you speak as a hearing person, that would be SEE. The hand alphabet is used by both ASL and SEE. Same with 'more' or 'please' - used by both languages. The difference is the sentence structure, primarly, and that SEE uses all the pronouns, adverbs, etc. ASL doesn't so much. If you're using SEE you'd sign "I am going to the store"; if you were using ASL you'd sign (I don't know the exact order) "I store go" or something similar. I remember very clearly writing to my grandfather "I'm going outside to play" and he wrote back "Too dark. Danger for cars." I guess from a spoken language perspective you could equate it to learning French and using a different structure - and that English isn't interpreted word for word in the same order. KWIM?

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    Quote Originally Posted by kris_w View Post
    Definitely going too far.

    Alissa, I saw your siggy! Congrats!
    Thanks!

    That is interesting about the difference in culture between SEE and ASL. Is it possible that the parents (or child) liked the sign in SEE for Hunter better as a name, but in general they speak ASL?

    I took an ASL class about 5 years ago, and I actually loved the sentence structure of ASL; it was so much simpler than having to remember a bunch of pronouns. A couple of years ago I happened to be looking for Oragel in a store and needed help. The employee I found was deaf, so I just signed "Baby teeth hurt. Medicine?" and she got it. I was so happy and proud.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alissa_Sal View Post
    Thanks!

    That is interesting about the difference in culture between SEE and ASL. Is it possible that the parents (or child) liked the sign in SEE for Hunter better as a name, but in general they speak ASL?

    I took an ASL class about 5 years ago, and I actually loved the sentence structure of ASL; it was so much simpler than having to remember a bunch of pronouns. A couple of years ago I happened to be looking for Oragel in a store and needed help. The employee I found was deaf, so I just signed "Baby teeth hurt. Medicine?" and she got it. I was so happy and proud.
    That is awesome! Good for you Alissa. A lot of people with basic ASL would be very intimidated to sign (kinda like me using French in Quebec ) but most deaf people are so gracious and thankful when a hearing person tries to communicate in their language.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ethanwinfield View Post
    Can I ask you two a question that is slightly OT? Did you notice they use SEE instead of ASL? Is this common where you are? I remember people having some really strong opinions on it back when I was in college.
    DH is also a certified sign language interpreter. (He works in the school system with Deaf students). My degree is also in Deaf Studies. I would agree with Lisa. ASL is what is accepted by Deaf people. There are still many people who sign SEE. What is most common is a mesh between the two (Contact signing). Let me give you an example. An English sentence would be "I walked the dog" in ASL it would be "Dog I finish walk" They are two completely different languages. One is English expressed with signs. The other is a language built upon a complete culture.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AlyssaEimers View Post
    DH is also a certified sign language interpreter. (He works in the school system with Deaf students). My degree is also in Deaf Studies. I would agree with Lisa. ASL is what is accepted by Deaf people. There are still many people who sign SEE. What is most common is a mesh between the two (Contact signing). Let me give you an example. An English sentence would be "I walked the dog" in ASL it would be "Dog I finish walk" They are two completely different languages. One is English expressed with signs. The other is a language built upon a complete culture.
    Thanks for sharing this. I had no idea! I used to manage a cell store back when blackberries were still new. They were great for deaf people and I had a lot of sales that way. I found out later from one of my customers that they recommended me to their friends as I was patient and tried to use what little sign language I knew. I wasn't purposefully doing anything differently in trying to get sales but I guess it was appreciated. The only really funny thing was the one time I forgot to put the BB on vibrate for them, they came right back and we shared a laugh over my forgetfulness
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    I watched the video twice and I watched the name being signed carefully. I just can't not even figure out what dangerous weapon that resembles. Big fail.
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