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    Default Death Penalty

    I'm almost 100% positive that a debate must've already taken place regarding the Death Penalty, however I missed it.

    Missouri Man Executed For Teenager's Murder

    Are you for or against, and why?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Minx_Kristi View Post
    I'm almost 100% positive that a debate must've already taken place regarding the Death Penalty, however I missed it.

    Missouri Man Executed For Teenager's Murder

    Are you for or against, and why?

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    Horrendous crime to read about, made me literally ill to my stomach.

    But I'm against the death penalty.

    *praying this doesn't magically morph into an abortion debate*
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    I'm opposed to the death penalty. It doesn't deter violent crime, it's not applied fairly to rich vs. poor or black vs. white, the mandatory appeals waste our court resources and cost too much money, and I honestly think it lets people get off the hook a lot easier than they deserve.

    ETA: I also think the fact that, despite all the supposed protections, innocent people have been executed is unconscionable.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Spacers View Post
    I'm opposed to the death penalty. It doesn't deter violent crime, it's not applied fairly to rich vs. poor or black vs. white, the mandatory appeals waste our court resources and cost too much money, and I honestly think it lets people get off the hook a lot easier than they deserve.
    I agree with all of this, but just curious if all of this was not true, if:

    It did deter violent crime
    If it was applied equally among all people
    And cost less than lifetime imprisonment

    Would you then be a proponent?

    I would not.


    Just wondering, since this is a recurring debate and we need new and interesting spins on the subject

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    Probably not because of the getting off easy part. I think having to sit in a room alone for 23 hours a day with nothing but your thoughts, knowing what you did to get there, would be pure hell and that's what I want murderers to go through. That, or whatever it was they did to their victims. I don't think they should get TV or books or anything else in their cells, either.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Spacers View Post
    Probably not because of the getting off easy part. I think having to sit in a room alone for 23 hours a day with nothing but your thoughts, knowing what you did to get there, would be pure hell and that's what I want murderers to go through. That, or whatever it was they did to their victims. I don't think they should get TV or books or anything else in their cells, either.
    Except that isn't what happens. We live in a country where you can murder your wife and then decide you are the wrong gender and we have to pay for your sex change surgery.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Spacers View Post
    Probably not because of the getting off easy part. I think having to sit in a room alone for 23 hours a day with nothing but your thoughts, knowing what you did to get there, would be pure hell and that's what I want murderers to go through. That, or whatever it was they did to their victims. I don't think they should get TV or books or anything else in their cells, either.
    Sorry i meant to include the getting off easy part.

    What i'm mainly asking is...is the reason you are against the death penalty strictly for the reasons you mentioned? Or do you have any ethical issues with determining its okay to kill someone for heinous crimes.

    Are your reasons solely circumstantial (due to things such as ineffectiveness, too costly, to easy for the criminal) or do you have a belief that there is something innately wrong with determining the moment of death for these people.

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    I don't believe that a civilized society should be in the business of methodically killing its citizens. I'd have no problem with hog-tying them and letting the victims' families do whatever they wish with them. That actually seems more just and fair to me than the quick & peaceful death they get from lethal injection. A bit of their own medicine, so to speak. But only if there's absolutely no question at all that that person is actually *the* murderer. We've put people to death for simply being in the same room when someone else commits a murder, and that doesn't sit well with me.
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    I dont believe we should be deciding the moment of death for anyone, period.

    But I also think most times that sitting in a cell for the rest of your live is a harsher punishment
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    Thanks for answering my questions Stacey.


    For the record my stance on the death penalty is that it is always wrong and always will be, regardless of how effective it is, how costly it is or how much mental anguish it does or doesn't inflict upon the criminal.

    I wouldn't care if it was the most effective deterrent to violent crimes there was, I think its inherently wrong to determine when someone else should die aside from protecting your own life.

    I also think the legal system is not about making criminals suffer...our legal system should be strictly focused on societal safety.

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