I really cannot decide what the right answer is in this situation. Pee was going to get on the sidewalk either way, so I am not sure she was totally wrong for what she did. I think the right way to deal with this is pay the ticket and then in future come up with a better plan for what to do next time.
This is a little off topic but it amazes me how many moms of boys encourage the peeing outside thing. I had a mom of one of my students tell me her son had not yet peed in the toilet, only outside. Since then I have had a lot of moms tell me they taught their boys to pee outside before they did inside. I think it is weird and really gross. My son is going on about a month of being potty trained and has only peed outside one time while we were on a hike this last weekend.
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It was a potty training emergency and the pee was going somewhere public no matter what. I have been in that spot with DD and we found her a discrete bush because we were really far from a bathroom. Sometimes you really can't help when a small child is going to pee.
I think the cop was a jerk for giving the ticket, but the mom shouldn't have let her son pee on the pole. In the grass is one thing, but on the pole is pushing it. If you have to let a child pee somewhere then at least pick a discrete (and absorbent/grassy) place.
I think it's sort of a lose-lose situation. I totally get that with a 2-year-old boy, those situations come up, but we also don't want pee everywhere so yeah, you get a ticket for it. That's just how it goes. The cop could have given her a break, but he wasn't obligated to and sometimes we just have to deal with these things. I don't think she should fight it. Yeah he was two, yeah there are excuses, but the bottom line is pee in a public place.
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I believe I'm in agreement with the majority of you. If it was truly a potty training emergency, pick a discreet spot and even stand in front of the child to block them from public view. You don't *send* the child to pee on a public pole (or someone's tire! UGH!! I would have been angry too!) As a police officer, unless you truly believe that mom "picked the spot" and ordered him to pee on a public pole -- then you consider the age of the child and the likely lack of ability to hold it longer before issuing a ticket. A warning -- sure. (Now, if the mom came back with the attitude of she was right to let her kid pee whenever/wherever I may be more inclined as an officer to ticket.)
Mom should have paid the ticket and not aired this publicly as if she was right.
The one that I wanted ticketed, fined, and banned from all restaurants while potty training ANY child -- the mom in Utah that brought potty chairs for her kids and set them on them........ AT the dining room tables of a busy restaurant. THAT was no *accident*!
Now if only they could bust everyone who pees in the public swimming pools.
She needs one of these. Problem solved.
Accidents happen while potty training, I think that's a given. If she wasn't prepared and if she forgot to have him go at the diner, then she should have been paying more attention to him to make sure that he was peeing in an appropriate place. If the child was peeing on grass, I have no problem with it, no different than a dog IMHO. Peeing on a light pole is gross & she should pay the ticket. I actually had a similar experience with Weston a couple of weeks ago. I'd had him go before we left the house, and I was just moving laundry to dryers, it was supposed to be a quick trip so I didn't take the Potette, and all of a sudden he was crying & doing a potty dance. I already had all my wet laundry in a cart so I didn't want to leave it & try to run three blocks back home, especially since it didn't seem we'd make it anyway, so I took him outside & had him go next to a bush in some gravel. If I'd gotten a ticket, I'd fight it because why can all the dog owners not get a ticket for letting their dogs pee in exactly the same place? But if I'd let him pee right on the sidewalk or next to the building, I think I'd deserve a ticket.
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I don't think she should have told him to go on the pole - if it's a potty training accident, as many people have pointed out, why not find a bit more discreet and grassy place?
But I also don't think she should have been given a ticket by the cop - he should have judged that based on the boys age, he obviously wasn't doing it because he was intoxicated or anything like we usually see, but I could understand if he gave her a warning instead.
The part that upsets me about this, is that they were in a store and they weren't allowed to use the bathroom.
I've run into this multiple times, even just a while ago at a gas station - filled up, bought some snacks/drinks, and asked to use the washroom - I was told no, when I told them I was pregnant and really needed to use the washroom, they didn't care. I've seen mothers in the same situation where they're getting denied the use of the bathrooms, and they're response is "either my kid is going to go in their pants or go outside if you don't let us use it".....and still they're denied using the facilities.