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Do children run into traffic often?

Because I see it brought up all the time on here. Like, why people spank. Or why people do or don't discipline a certain way. Or why people can't return shopping carts. I will say, none of my three children have ever come close to running into traffic (granted, one can't run yet) or dashing away from me in a parking lot.

Why does this seem to happen so frequently to other people? Anyone?

Do you have rules for your children in parking lots? What are they, and are they working to keep your children from being one of the apparent thousands who frequently dart into traffic and/or away from their mothers control in parking lots?

I think that people who frequently have kids running into traffic are doing something fundamentally wrong. Either you allow your kids to play in dangerous areas too close to traffic, or you don't have sufficient discipline techniques to teach your children how to be safe. Please discuss.

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Oh boy you are openning a can of foul worms here Miss Potter. haha

Obviously we will put aside the kids with some sort of medical issue or behavioral issue that cause them to do things like bolt. for the rest, I can't say. My kids never really bolted. My son sometimes gets rambunctious and forgets the street is there, but I say Daniel stop and he stops.

My nephew used to be a runner. When he was about 2 he would take off a running like no one's business. He was very independant and could care less if his mom was next to him or not. Not sure if he ever ran into the street though.
Maybe it isn't something that happens all the time as far as kids running into traffic. but I am sure all of us had times when our kids came close and we usually yell, "Stop" and give a strict talking to. But we have all heard stories of kids running out into streets after balls or whatnot and getting hit, so it does happen. And at school I can't tell you how many times some kid walks from between parked cars while in the parkign lot and almost gets hit.

I am interested in a masachistic way to see where this debate goes. Especially with the last bit of your post.

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This is funny, because I was just discussing my irrational fear of parking lots and my child yesterday with DH as we were leaving the grocery store. I'm not using this as an excuse to any of the things you listed above, but I just wanted to comment. It's not that I don't trust my child, it's that I don't trust the idiots that drive like bats out of hell in the parking lots. They don't take into account that small, sometimes invisible children are walking or obscured by a parked car. Makes me so nervous.

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I ran onto the road once when I was about 2 or three chasing my ball. Yes I got a smack because I didn't look for cars, I was also stubborn as anything and going through the tantrum stage and got my second smack ever just after that when I marched inside and in a tantrum over the first smack was found trying to stick a knife in the power socket.
My DS doesn't run yet, but I do worry a bit when it comes to him being older and in car parks becaus epeople don't look. I have seen so many people run into trolleys and they are much taller than a small child. I also park right next to the trolley return which adds some safety.

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I don't sugar coat when it comes to that stuff. I have made it clear to Jace that if he runs out in the road, a car could come, hit him, and he may die (he understands what death is). I honestly don't remember a time when he ever tried to run out.

He is very good about staying close to me, and close to the car until it is time to start walking. I also make sure he is holding my hand (he loves to hold hands) and I make sure he is walking on the inside and me on the outside (in case a car swerves, they hit me first).

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We have a system whereby the kids don't run, because they are holding my hand and one another's and we walk as a group. But if I don't remind them when we leave a place, one of the kids will begin walking/skipping toward where she thinks or knows we want to go and get ahead of everyone else, and she doesn't look at anything but her goal. This, as you can imagine, can be very dangerous.

I'm not sure it is common, but one of mine wouldn't think to proceed without mom and the other one just doesn't think, period. Her personality is one that requires more vigilance and stricter obedience in the parking lot or sidewalk, because she tends to default to following her own mind or partial instructions instead of waiting for mine.

With her, we need instant obedience if she isn't holding a hand or gets away from us, because she doesn't yet understand she needs to look around and judge/be aware of cars. So when I yell 'stop!' because she has headed down the steps while we are still gathering bags, we need her to listen instantly.

There are simply too many of us, too many bags, and too many cars for us to move as anything but an organized, listening group when navigating. It works very well, provided everyone is obeying.

So I don't know Mel, you tell me. Am I doing it wrong? Nobody has come near running into traffic, but that's because I have constant hands and eyes on the one of three who would be prone to it if I didn't. I don't know how someone else would evaluate my success in this area?

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Only 3 of my 4 kids are walkers at this moment...I've also never dealt with the darting into the road. I would like to add that we have lived in areas with lots of traffic too, and not on a trafficless court.

Kids hold my hand in the parking lot or to cross the road. The older two hold each other's hands, but I always hold Leo's. He knows that if he doesn't follow the rules, he doesn't get to walk. The right to walk is something Leo values highly. LOL.

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I actually almost wrote "fluff" in the topic headline because I am mostly kidding.

I think that I just see the "when they run into the road" thing a lot as a reason for doing all sorts of things....and I drive a good bit, and I have never (yet) have to either had to evade one of these road runner kids, or had a road runner kid myself. I was more curious if this is an actually common thing that I have simply been lucky enough to avoid, or if this is like urban mommy board legend justification extremism talk thing.

We work it like this. I unbuckle my bigs out of their 5 points because they can't do it themselves. I leave the door open. I walk around to get the baby out. Our rule is "Stand on the line". My bigs stand on the line (the parking space line) like it is a balance beam while I get the smalls out. I get him, shut the door, walk around, shut the bigs door, we hold hands, and we cross the parking lot (generally this happens only at the gym or in weird circumstances, we don't do the mall thing or food shopping as a 4 some, so I admit to having limited experience.) We have never had a "dart" situation. I find it hard to believe that so many of these "dart" experiences happen based on my experience as a parent, or that of my friends, or that of me as a driver who has not yet had to evade small street darting children.

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I have never had to stop my car on a whim for a child darting into the road in a parking lot... BUT I have had to in neighborhoods - where the parents are usually inside and the kids are playing on their own. Usually it's because a ball rolled out into the road and the kid's immediate reaction is to run after it, before looking for cars. This is why when I am in residential areas, I ALWAYS drive slowly. If the speed limit is 25, I go 15-20 (unless someone is behind me). When Jace is of age where I can trust him outside on his own, I really want to teach him that material items that go into the road are to be let go, until it is safe to go and retrieve them. Whatever item is lost or run over, it can be replaced... He can't be.

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My kids do understand needing to stay close and hold hands in parking lots...but I have only more recently been trusting them to do it when out with them by myself. Previously I would carry one or the other (depending on who was cooperating better) and hold hands with the remaining kid. My issue is not so much darting as my children are small and don't really comprehend the danger of cars backing out. Maybe it's just how parking lots are designed around here, but they are often very busy and drivers (usually in large trucks/SUVs/vans with less visibility) are not as polite about yielding the right of way to pedestrians. Having had people almost back over me (while I am paying attention!), has made me more cautious with my kids.

As for running into the road? We live in a subdivision and I can't even count the number of times I have seen kids of all ages chasing balls into the streets. Often this happens where there is a car parked on the street in front of the house, so you don't even have visibility. I always wonder why those parents are not more vigilant in teaching their kids to be respectful of traffic. Two years ago there was actually an accident where an 8 yo ran into the street and was hit (in our 15 mi/hr sub). She luckily ended up being okay, but was hospitalized and had serious injuries. The driver was going the speed limit and was not at fault.

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Mine have never actually darted out in the road or parking lot. We have a system that works for us and so far so good. My 2nd DD required constant vigilance as a younger child (until about 5) because even though she new it was not okay to run out in the road, if her ball went out there she probably would have chased it without thinking. She has also been know to run into trees while walking because she is checking out stuff around her and not noticing.
I think all parents need to know each childs personality and gauge the need for supervision on that.

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We don't have this issue as our son isn't quite 3 and we only have one child. I always put him in the car first in parking lots and he mostly still likes holding hands. Once I was distracted and he actually looked at me and said "parking lot; hold hands." I was so proud. I seriously doubt he'll always be this good, but it works for now.

I've personally lectured the boys next door a couple of times about street safety. They didn't appreciate it, but they don't ride their dirt-bike in the road anymore and I've noticed if they are playing basket ball, they stop and look now before going out into the street.

You're very lucky to have avoided the street darting children. Of course it's not as scary as the idea of it happening to your kids, but there have been several times in my life where I had to stop and even after I realized the kid was fine, still had to wait to catch my breath back. In Omaha, it seemed like no one watched their children. There was once a two year old riding a tricycle in the street and I couldn't find an adult to give him to.

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We have had one road running incident ever....last week. I had just unloaded all four kids and we were heading into the zoo. I was alone w all four....and Miles was over excited and ran into the road....it was a parking lot and there was a car. I yelled STOP, and he did....and the car was going about 5mph.....Miles immediately knew he had made a mistake. As a consequence he had to ride in the stroller the rest of the way in. Poor fella was eager to see the elephants.

My older girls are very aware of cars. Last summer a neighbor girl was hit while riding across a busy street and killed. My girls still talk about her and the roadside memorial...as we cross near there frequently. So sad.

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My son was hit by a car when he was in 2nd grade. My older son was picking him up across the street from the school and he wasn't paying attention and walked between two cars into the street. Luckily the driver wasn't going very fast and so he only got a few bruises. The ambulance came but didn't transport and waited for me to get there from work to pick him up. It was a very scary experience.

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No, mine hasn't darted, but like I said, it's not him that I distrust. I don't see anything wrong with being a little anal about specific things when it comes to our own kids. What harm will it cause?

And if another mother spanks her child for running into the road, oh well. I guess I'm just not understanding the goal o this thread...

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No, mine hasn't darted, but like I said, it's not him that I distrust. I don't see anything wrong with being a little anal about specific things when it comes to our own kids. What harm will it cause?

And if another mother spanks her child for running into the road, oh well. I guess I'm just not understanding the goal o this thread...

Of course you don't, Danielle, there really isn't a goal. Do most debates have a goal? It has nothing to do with being anal. I can't imagine NOT being anal when it comes to my three children and two ton moving vehicles.

Someone mentioned running into traffic in the discipline thread. I just found it humorous that we all always go to this "running in front of a car" thing when we mention why we hit our kids or how our parenting is stellar. We don't say "I hit my child when he plays with steak knives" or "I am anal about my child not ever being near a swimming pool unattended", the running into traffic thing seems to be our universal parental go to. It gives me a giggle. Just a lighthearted little thread, if you need a stated goal in order to participate, feel free to start your own debate and ignore this thread in its entirety!

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Oooo where is this "discipline thread" you talk about? it sounds like fun.

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I don't automatically think that if a parent has a darter that they, as a parent, are doing something fundamentally wrong. The only time I've had a memorable issue of running to the street was when my DS was 2. He, DD1 who was only a baby, and I were out in the backyard of an apartment complex where we lived hanging clothes to dry. I'd carry DD1 out in the wet basket while DS walked along side me. While hanging the clothes, DD1 was sitting comfortably in the grass while DS was going through the clothes line. Before I knew it, he was about 30 feet away from me headed to the street. I yelled at him to stop and started after him. He saw it as a game and started running towards the street laughing. I was horrified. I was able to catch him just before he made it to the curb. Luckily there was no traffic, but the sheer thought of it happening left me shaken. It was then where the child leash was introduced to me. It literally has been a lifesaver since as I would connect it to the clothes wire while I hung the laundry.

As for the darting in the streets in general, I come across it quite frequently especially when going through sections where a school is nearby. I'm guessing it's because there are more families living in the area. Even in the area were we currently live, which is a quiet neighborhood, kids play on the edge of the street be it with their bikes or bigwheels, throwing snowballs at each other where their forts are facing each other across the street, or just walking or running alone or in groups across the street. Knowing this, I also drive very slow to ensure safety.

As for holding hands going into stores with my older kids, they all were generally very good at following direction. When they got excited about something, they sometimes became distracted and diverted from the rule. At that point, they had to be drawn back into compliance which they did immediately. With my younger kids, they're still too young to have just holding hands to walk into the store alone. There would always be one kid who could take off, thinking they're funny and making a game of it. Not worth it to us yet. We whip out the double stroller and put the twins in it while DD3 holds onto the stroller walking in. The twins are unloaded from the car first and loaded into the car last to ensure there's no possibility of darting.

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My two year old knows that we hold hands in parking lots or anytime we get out of the car. She has never darted into the parking lot or in front of a car. I've never had to swerve to miss a kid anywhere near the road either.

I will say though, I've seen some parents be distant from their kids walking thru the parking lots. Always makes me nervous because you can't see them if they are directly behind your car.

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I'm pretty sure I brought it up, if I am thinking of what she is referring to correctly, and I didn't actually bring it up as a general point but with a specific example of life-saving obedience in mind. Had the child in question not frozen instantly upon hearing his Mom's voice (being conditioned to obey first, ask questions later) he'd have been hit by a car coming out of traffic into the driveway of the shop he was walking in front of.

It made such an impression on me, it is the first example that comes to mind of such a thing.

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So far I haven't had a problem with this, but we only have 1 kid so it's fairly easy to either insist that he holds my hand if he's walking, or keep him sitting in the cart if I am pushing out groceries.

I did have a kid almost run out in front of my car in my neighborhood recently. She was probably about 12, and someone (probably her dad) was stopped in a car across the street from her house (I was coming from the other direction). She ran down her driveway and out into the street, obviously heading for the car across the street. I wasn't expecting her to run out in the street and had to slam on my breaks (I wasn't speeding, just not expecting someone to throw themselves in front of my car.) You could tell that the man in the car was PO'ed at her for running out in the street - he started yelling at her immediately. It was pretty scary, because it was pretty close.

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I have not dealt with this, but I also put the fear of God into my children about the dangers of running into the streets. We sing a little song before crossing the street/parking lots, "Stop Look and Listen" type song and I am hyper vigilant about it. There was one time that he got to close for comfort to a car and I told him forcefully and loudly that a car could rip his body up and it would hurt so bad. He got the message.

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"Potter75" wrote:

Because I see it brought up all the time on here. Like, why people spank. Or why people do or don't discipline a certain way. Or why people can't return shopping carts. I will say, none of my three children have ever come close to running into traffic (granted, one can't run yet) or dashing away from me in a parking lot.

Why does this seem to happen so frequently to other people? Anyone?

Do you have rules for your children in parking lots? What are they, and are they working to keep your children from being one of the apparent thousands who frequently dart into traffic and/or away from their mothers control in parking lots?

I think that people who frequently have kids running into traffic are doing something fundamentally wrong. Either you allow your kids to play in dangerous areas too close to traffic, or you don't have sufficient discipline techniques to teach your children how to be safe. Please discuss.

I haven't read everyone's responses yet. But I'd like to share my story.

We've always been very strict with our kids in parking lots. Hold my hand or stay right next to me. Also when riding bikes/scooters--stop, look, stay close, etc...

We'd never had any problems. No laying down or fits. But they also knew a spanking would result if they did.

One day walking home from kindergarten my son got about 10 feet ahead of me on his scooter and only slowed as he entered the cross walk. There was a huge construction container there and he couldn't see the car coming. It was a huge SUV. Being driven about 35-40 mph in a 25 zone. Another parent and I spotted it and yelled "STOP!" My son came to a skidding halt. His scooter literally flipped out to the side as the SUV passed less than half a foot in front of him. The driver never saw him. If he hadn't been trained so strictly I don't know that he would have responded so quick. In fact I am pretty sure were would have been at the hospital or worse that day.

So, I think being strict is important. But I know from experience that it doesn't stop the sudden change in behavior of a child. I've seen kids throw fits (even for parents I know have good rules). They are kids. They aren't going to think the same.

My kids "never" broke my rules....until the one time he did and entered the crosswalk after only slowing a little instead of completely stopping. The fact is that it happens even to the best behaved kids.

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Yup, that's very similar to my experience, as well. Immediate response makes a difference!

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It happened to us 2 weeks ago. Claire, who had never, ever, ever ran away from me in parking lots or traffic, decided upon leaving the dance studio that she would run around the corner (still on the sidewalk) away from me and then ran out into an empty parking stall in front of the building. I had Ben in one arm and couldn't chase her and grab her fast enough, and she ignored my screaming at her to stop. I don't know what possessed her, as she always sticks to my side like glue and always knows to hold my hand when we're out walking in traffic. I am a paranoid freak about traffic safety. I reached for her hand, like always, and she just took off.

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DD has tried to run off on me twice. Once in the road (side street thank goodness!), once in the parking lot (empty - whew!). She was supposed to be holding my hand and walking nicely. But she went through a phase of not wanting to listen when we were out. She just didn't understand why she couldn't run in the road. She is only 2. The last time I got very upset with her and since then she has been good in the road. She still doesn't understand why but at least she know that mummy will get very upset if she doesnt. It is something that we will be working on for quite a while I am sure. It will be a long time before I trust her to walk safely by the road or in a parking lot.

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In a single word: YES!

If you've never had a child that bolts, count yourself lucky. Oh man, I don't spank a lot, but when you run away from mama toward the street or in a parking lot when I've told you no, your butt's gonna get it!

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"The Great Vagina" wrote:

In a single word: YES!

If you've never had a child that bolts, count yourself lucky. Oh man, I don't spank a lot, but when you run away from mama toward the street or in a parking lot when I've told you no, your butt's gonna get it!

This!

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The girls are 23 months old, and they have yet to ever walk in a parking lot! I will carry them until we get inside. Cars just scare me. I know someday they will get too big for me to carry them both at once, and that I need to teach them how to walk while holding my hand, but I'm just not ready for that yet.

I was a runner when I was a kid. I used to open the front door and dart right thru the yard and into the road. The second time that happened my parents had a fence put up!

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This morning at walmart I was very happy that my kids were all holding onto the cart (even the 11 yr old was today) as we were walking out to the car a little old woman was backing up, didnt see us and just kept going until she was able to go forward. If my kids had not been with me it could have been bad.

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I almost got smoked in a parking lot when I was 5 months pg with Ben. I walked out of a grocery store with the cart into the very wide and well-marked pedestrian crossing into the parking lot and a psycho b!tch doing at least 50 nearly ran me over. I freaked. I mean, I really lost it on her. If I hadn't literally jumped out of the way she would've hit me for sure. And, I could've had Claire in the cart - that's the part that really got my blood boiling. She jumped out of the car because she could see how upset I was and I'm going off about how crazy she is and that I was 5 months pregnant and then she pulls back her coat to show me her pregnant belly, like somehow we were equal in the situation because we were both pregnant. Like, what???? She's behind the wheel of nearly 1/2 a ton of quickly moving steel and there's little ol' me out there pushing my grocery cart. I would hardly say that's equal or even in the realm of similarity.

This is one of the reason why I am so insanely cautious with the wee ones in traffic. People are crazy and don't give a @#$% about anyone but themselves.

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I almost got run over when I was pregnant too!!

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IME it's mostly lack of conditioning on the part of the parents, and perhaps lack of opportunity to practice. As an urban child, Tiven has been raised from day one with these lessons. Before she was ever allowed out of the stroller, she knew to watch for cars moving in & out of driveways, she knew how close to the street she was allowed to get, she knew where to stop at an intersection, she knew how to look both ways when crossing a street, and she knew to never follow a material object into the street no matter how precious she might think it to be. We also practiced walking & following instructions, starting with small safe areas & working up. We've also sadly witnessed what happens when a car hits a person or a bus hits a bicyclist so she really understands what is at stake. My nieces & nephews who grew up in suburbia tend to be good in parking lots, but they will run down the sidewalk with no regard to driveways and keep going right into the street, because where they live you can pretty much do that & apparently their parents haven't trained them otherwise.

The other day I let Weston walk home after we parked. After about 20 feet, I told him to stop & wait for me, and he did, and he stopped when I told him to twice more. When we were almost home, I told him to stop but he didn't, so I put him back in the stroller for the last maybe 10 feet. Tiven asked why I did that when we were so close to home, and I said because he needs to learn that there are consequences to not stopping when I say to stop, and being put in the stroller is a much lesser consequence than being hit by a car.

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"fuchsiasky" wrote:

This!

Double this!! My son was a nightmare as a toddler. Complete and total nightmare and ran at every opportunity. I had an infant at the time and was always worried he would get hit. He came close a few times.

Dh was hit twice as a child from running into the street. He lived in the city and ran out between cars so the driver didn't see him. Luckily he suffered non life threatening injuries but my good friends son was not so lucky. he ran out and was hit by a truck and suffered servere brain damage. He's alive but mentally disabled.

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"SoxyToo" wrote:

Double this!! My son was a nightmare as a toddler. Complete and total nightmare and ran at every opportunity. I had an infant at the time and was always worried he would get hit. He came close a few times.

Dh was hit twice as a child from running into the street. He lived in the city and ran out between cars so the driver didn't see him. Luckily he suffered non life threatening injuries but my good friends son was not so lucky. he ran out and was hit by a truck and suffered servere brain damage. He's alive but mentally disabled.

My twin nephews were runners as toddlers. They (well, one in particular) would attempt to bolt at any given opportuntity. They have an older brother, so when my brother or SIL would be out with all 3 boys alone they would sometimes have to use harnesses on the twins. Sometimes when I talked to my SIL I'd ask her how her day was and occasionally she would say to me "At the end of the day I'll ask myself if all the boys are alive, and if I can answer 'yes' to that then it's been a pretty good day". One of the twins used to climb the knobs on the kitchen cupboards and drawers to get to the upper cupboards to get to the magnetic 'key' they used to unlock the lower cupboards. They even installed a childproof lock at the very top of the front and back doors to keep him from running outside and into the street. Standard door locks and deadbolts? Forget it! The other twin used to just look at him like "Dude, you just keep on being the evil twin. I don't mind."

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"Claire'sMommy" wrote:

My twin nephews were runners as toddlers. They (well, one in particular) would attempt to bolt at any given opportuntity. They have an older brother, so when my brother or SIL would be out with all 3 boys alone they would sometimes have to use harnesses on the twins. Sometimes when I talked to my SIL I'd ask her how her day was and occasionally she would say to me "At the end of the day I'll ask myself if all the boys are alive, and if I can answer 'yes' to that then it's been a pretty good day". One of the twins used to climb the knobs on the kitchen cupboards and drawers to get to the upper cupboards to get to the magnetic 'key' they used to unlock the lower cupboards. They even installed a childproof lock at the very top of the front and back doors to keep him from running outside and into the street. Standard door locks and deadbolts? Forget it! The other twin used to just look at him like "Dude, you just keep on being the evil twin. I don't mind."

I can so totally relate to this post with my three younger kids, all being 2 and under. They climb onto absolutely everything, using the knobs on doors, stools, chairs, or turning over their bigger ride on toys sideways for stabilization if need be. They've also figured out how to take the child proof knobs apart to open doors. We also have an extra tall baby gate in front of the stairs by the front door (split foyer) that's tightly bungied shut as they know how to open the gate without it or with the bungy cord moderately hooked on. This stays on throughout the night as well since they've been able to escape their room at night. We've had to do this since they were 12 months. Right now, they've yet to go out in public without having to be in the stroller unless it's only one of them with. That'll only go as long as they haven't figured out how to unstrap themselves and as long as strangers distract them by talking to them. The harnesses will be a blessing!

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Tracey, at my son's first daycare, when they would take all the littles out for a stroller ride in the giant six-seater buggies, they would clip the kids in and then wrap some electrical tape around the clip. The kids couldn't undo it, but it was easy for the adults to remove. Thought I'd pass that along because that might extend your ability to keep them in the stroller... Smile

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Tracey, at my son's first daycare, when they would take all the littles out for a stroller ride in the giant six-seater buggies, they would clip the kids in and then wrap some electrical tape around the clip. The kids couldn't undo it, but it was easy for the adults to remove. Thought I'd pass that along because that might extend your ability to keep them in the stroller... Smile

Ooooh, good idea! Thanks for the tip, much appreciated!!! Biggrin

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"SoxyToo" wrote:

Double this!! My son was a nightmare as a toddler. Complete and total nightmare and ran at every opportunity. I had an infant at the time and was always worried he would get hit. He came close a few times.

Well jeez! I think you should have just conditioned him better! Really, what is wrong with you as a mother?

...totally kidding! Smile

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Guys, just want to point out again that this was a random musing/joke/fluff, and was NOT aimed at anyones parenting or anything of the sort. Like, when I don't want to do something I always say that I would rather eat glass than do it. I really would never consider eating glass. I don't really get why I say that, since I would not actually rather eat glass.

I was giggling at the notion of why the "go to bad thing" in parenting debates frequently seems to be "if my kid ran out in front of a car". It seems that it does actually happen frequently, hence why it might make sense as the "go to bad thing" ~ it actually happens to some of us. Now it makes more sense to me.

/and stuff.

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"Potter75" wrote:

Guys, just want to point out again that this was a random musing/joke/fluff, and was NOT aimed at anyones parenting or anything of the sort. Like, when I don't want to do something I always say that I would rather eat glass than do it. I really would never consider eating glass. I don't really get why I say that, since I would not actually rather eat glass.

I was giggling at the notion of why the "go to bad thing" in parenting debates frequently seems to be "if my kid ran out in front of a car". It seems that it does actually happen frequently, hence why it might make sense as the "go to bad thing" ~ it actually happens to some of us. Now it makes more sense to me.

/and stuff.

Oh, I get it M. I was just having fun with Soxy. Smile

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I had fun with Soxy Thursday night.

/be very jealous.
//she is very beautiful and has a wicked ahsome accent.

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I sent her a PM with no response. Did she leave FB or did I just get axed?

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Lent. Smile It's why she isn't tagged.

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People give up Facebook for Lent?

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Yep. I have another friend who did it. You are supposed to give up a food or activity you enjoy. I have another friend who gave up TV.

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"The Great Vagina" wrote:

Well jeez! I think you should have just conditioned him better! Really, what is wrong with you as a mother?

...totally kidding! Smile

I know you are kidding but in all seriousness (is that word?) if I had my daughter first and heard about kids doing this I wouldn't have believed it. Sometimes you just have to experience it firsthand to really understand the challenge.

p.s. I also never returned shopping carts when they were little for this reason. Too risky! now I do of course but wouldn't have put myself through the misery any longer than necessary while grocery shopping. That's what the cart return people get paid for and we pay them well in this area (unionized they are Wink

Also I forgot in that thread that my godson was run over when he was 3 in a parking lot and almost lost his leg. Just horrific!

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"Potter75" wrote:

I had fun with Soxy Thursday night.

/be very jealous.
//she is very beautiful and has a wicked ahsome accent.

OMG ha ha ha! Just read this!! Yes I had fun with Potter! She is HOT and has massive GUNS!! Men were falling all over themselves to touch them!! She is hotness personified. And Robin is too and we had a fabulous time!

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"Thrice~Blessed" wrote:

Yep. I have another friend who did it. You are supposed to give up a food or activity you enjoy. I have another friend who gave up TV.

Kati I just responded now. Yes I'm the brain surgeon who gave up FB for lent, decided to do it early to just get it over with and am having serious withdrawals. Never again!!

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"SoxyToo" wrote:

OMG ha ha ha! Just read this!! Yes I had fun with Potter! She is HOT and has massive GUNS!! Men were falling all over themselves to touch them!! She is hotness personified. And Robin is too and we had a fabulous time!

I don't have guns, though. But men really were falling over themselves to touch Potter's. Redhead seminarians, no less. Hot.

I saw a kid run out in the road today in my (very busy city) neighborhood. I wanted to spank her. But of course, she has some hippie white lesbian parent, 'cause that's my neighborhood.

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"SoxyToo" wrote:

I know you are kidding but in all seriousness (is that word?) if I had my daughter first and heard about kids doing this I wouldn't have believed it. Sometimes you just have to experience it firsthand to really understand the challenge.

p.s. I also never returned shopping carts when they were little for this reason. Too risky! now I do of course but wouldn't have put myself through the misery any longer than necessary while grocery shopping. That's what the cart return people get paid for and we pay them well in this area (unionized they are Wink

Also I forgot in that thread that my godson was run over when he was 3 in a parking lot and almost lost his leg. Just horrific!

I'm jealous of your meet up!....hahaha! I just typed "meat up" and laughed at myself.

Anyways, yeah, I think many things in life, and parenthood, don't go exactly as planned and you end up doing things you'd never thought you'd do. I just LOVE all those people who swear you're a lazy a$$ hag when you don't return a shopping cart. Just wait until you have 5 children with you, one of which is a toddler who bolts and the other a newborn and it's 110 degrees outside. You barely survive getting to the car, getting everyone loaded in, and then unloading all of the sh!t into the back of the SUV and you sure as heck aren't gonna let your kids sit in a hot car while you track down a far away cart corral. Sure, when I'm alone, I always return that thing, but when I've got my kids and the neighborhood kids with me, I'll take the lazy label. Oh well! Biggrin

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